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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18045

    Stopping unwanted email?

    I have gradually figured out ways which significantly reduce the amount of unwanted email I receive.

    However some "generators" of such stuff seem very resistant. Reputable senders often have an unsubscribe button which works, or one can block their missives, or direct them straight to trash, or amend the frequency of posting etc.
    OTOH some guys seem to have figured out ways to blast through any such measures.

    Has anyone here figured out ways to deal with such bad authors?
  • Old Grumpy
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 3652

    #2
    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    I have gradually figured out ways which significantly reduce the amount of unwanted email I receive.

    However some "generators" of such stuff seem very resistant. Reputable senders often have an unsubscribe button which works, or one can block their missives, or direct them straight to trash, or amend the frequency of posting etc.
    OTOH some guys seem to have figured out ways to blast through any such measures.

    Has anyone here figured out ways to deal with such bad authors?
    Probably some bad actors in there as well?

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    • Pulcinella
      Host
      • Feb 2014
      • 11114

      #3
      How/why have you subscribed in the first place?
      If, for example, it's the only way to get a receipt, then just don't tick any other communication boxes, or unsubscribe immediately after you've got the receipt.

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      • gradus
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5630

        #4
        Adding the sender's name to Junkmail works well for me in Outlook 2007. For the phishing and attempted theft emails I check the sender's address and if it takes the expected form immediately delete and delete from the deleted emails too.

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        • gurnemanz
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7415

          #5
          Most of these junk and scam emails seem to get diverted to the spam folder. If a dubious mail does get through and has an unsubscribe button, I am instinctively sceptical and don't click it, assuming it is not what it claims to be. I just delete the mail. I would only click unsubscribe if I am sure it really is from a site I actually subscribed to.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30509

            #6
            Originally posted by gradus View Post
            AFor the phishing and attempted theft emails I check the sender's address and if it takes the expected form immediately delete and delete from the deleted emails too.
            I do forward the email, copying the headers over, to report@phishing.gov.uk before deleting it. Every now and again there must be one that gets permanently zapped.

            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
            I would only click unsubscribe if I am sure it really is from a site I actually subscribed to.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18045

              #7
              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              How/why have you subscribed in the first place?
              There are some good actors, such as newspaper sites, which I may want to send me material. The amount of material coming in from these can really swamp me, and it's quicker to wait a while, then do a bulk deletion of all the unwanted messages, keeping some selectively. I do believe that these would honour an "unsubscribe" button if pressed.

              There are others that I'm sometimes interested in, but mostly again they are manageable.

              Then there are some, often connected with finance and the US - and I have no real idea or recollection of how they were activated - but those are very difficult to stop. One of my friends suggested using the "unsubscribe" buttons, but if they are rogue organisations, which I am now suspecting, then it's more likely that they'll just let others know my details.

              It's a total pain, though as I now seem to have methods which at least reduce the swamping effects to something manageable, it's not absolutely impossible to deal with.

              If, for example, it's the only way to get a receipt, then just don't tick any other communication boxes, or unsubscribe immediately after you've got the receipt.
              Getting receipts is generally not a problem, though may become so as more organisations are now not providing paper receipts. One which is trying this is Lidl - which has a phone app - but somehow it always manages to reset the button so that the till servers say "but you pressed the button which tells us you only want a digital receipt". Yes - and each time that happens I reset it to reflect my wishes to have paper receipts, but I can pretty much bet it'll be reset by the next time I visit the shop.

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 11114

                #8
                It's certainly easy to get on mailing lists.
                I'm happily on the Opera North one, but recently booked direct with the Theatre Royal in Newcastle to see their production of Ariadne auf Naxos (again in my case; first time for my partner, who couldn't make the Leeds date we had originally chosen) and subsequently got besieged with stuff.
                I let it carry on (some was relevant to the booking) and then unsubscribed (successfully!) but then got a mailshot through the post!

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                • Old Grumpy
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3652

                  #9
                  Many organisations will not let you buy their product (of whatever kind) online without creating an account. More enlightened organisations provide a "Guest" option - which I always use if provided. They still have your email of course - or you would not get notification of completion of the sale, or indeed delivery updates.

                  Some of the tickboxes are worded so that you have to complete them to opt out of marketing emails (sneaky!).

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                  • Dave2002
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 18045

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                    Some of the tickboxes are worded so that you have to complete them to opt out of marketing emails (sneaky!).
                    The other sneaky thing is that many organisations keep your credit card details even after just one purchase - plus of course the emails to bombard you with further offers. I particularly object to firms which keep credit card details - as quite often I contact some firms for just one purchase, and have no intention of allowing those firms to keep my credit card information once the item(s) or service(s) have been delivered.

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9308

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                      Many organisations will not let you buy their product (of whatever kind) online without creating an account. More enlightened organisations provide a "Guest" option - which I always use if provided. They still have your email of course - or you would not get notification of completion of the sale, or indeed delivery updates.

                      Some of the tickboxes are worded so that you have to complete them to opt out of marketing emails (sneaky!).
                      And not what they are supposed to do - it's meant to be opt-in not opt-out

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                      • Old Grumpy
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3652

                        #12
                        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                        And not what they are supposed to do - it's meant to be opt-in not opt-out
                        Ah, but you can opt in for not receiving marketing!

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                        • Anastasius
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1860

                          #13
                          Faecebook is one such. I have tried every Rule in Apple Mail but somehow their detritus evades them.
                          Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                          • Anastasius
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 1860

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            The other sneaky thing is that many organisations keep your credit card details even after just one purchase - plus of course the emails to bombard you with further offers. I particularly object to firms which keep credit card details - as quite often I contact some firms for just one purchase, and have no intention of allowing those firms to keep my credit card information once the item(s) or service(s) have been delivered.
                            Report them. It's against the rules.
                            Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                            • Anastasius
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 1860

                              #15
                              I have a fair few email addresses. The one that is the oldest and so, by default, been 'out there' the longest ....since Demon started ...what 1992 ?...and in all that time have never received any spam or junk mail from any company that I've not had any previous contact with.
                              Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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