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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI've often wondered why he entitled one of his pieces Irish Tune from County Derry; after all, such a tune could hardly be a French one, could it?...
There's a mystery surrounding the tune. It was collected by Jane Ross of Limavady, who passed it to George Petrie for his influential collection of 1855. But no other collector recorded a version of the tune. It does now seem that there was a tune that might have spawned it:
However, there is a strong suspicion that what Jane Ross collected (a woman, mark you) was largely her own composition, perhaps influenced by another old tune that she (unlike others) just happened to know.Last edited by Pabmusic; 23-04-14, 06:15.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostI've often wondered why he entitled one of his pieces Irish Tune from County Derry; after all, such a tune could hardly be a French one, could it?...
I'm quite happy to go along with the herd and accept that the tune is as it claims to be. But, if it turns out that it is indeed a French tune, or whatever, my ear will not be totally dismayed. Don't ask me for details, but the tune does not fit into my sense of Irishness in music.
Whatever the truth of it, it's a great tune, isn't it? Vive La France!
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostIn answer to the Why?, I suggest that it is a kind of a sign of authenticity to acknowledge where tunes come from eg 'Here is a tune I learned from Mickey O'Hara in Sligo'. In Ireland you don't have to say it's Irish, but elsewhere you might. The place is important.
I'm quite happy to go along with the herd and accept that the tune is as it claims to be. But, if it turns out that it is indeed a French tune, or whatever, my ear will not be totally dismayed. Don't ask me for details, but the tune does not fit into my sense of Irishness in music.
Whatever the truth of it, it's a great tune, isn't it? Vive La France!
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By way of belated explanation/ excuse for my original posting about PG and derrieres, I was listening with half an ear to Breakfast with Petroc Trelawney on Tues. He certainly mentioned the Derry- or Londonderry-Air with no break/ luftpause. I sat up with a jolt with alarm bells ringing following unconscious mental pick-up of this as 'derriere'I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!
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clive heath
heading from a weekend agony column,
" We've found our son dressing up in his sister's ballet clothes, is he hiding something from us?"
A nutcracker?
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have we had this ?
Woman walks past a pet shop and sees a lovely parrot in the window. She goes in and asks how much the parrot is. It's only £4 but its cheap cos it used to live in a brothel and its language is a bit ripe. That's OK she says, I'm broad minded, and takes it home in a cage under a sheet. In the living room she takes the cover off and the parrot says
"Bugger me what a lovely room"
Her daughter walks in and the parrot says
"Bugger me what a lovely girl."
Her husband walks in and the parrot says
"Hello Kevin."
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View Posthave we had this ?
Woman walks past a pet shop and sees a lovely parrot in the window. She goes in and asks how much the parrot is. It's only £4 but its cheap cos it used to live in a brothel and its language is a bit ripe. That's OK she says, I'm broad minded, and takes it home in a cage under a sheet. In the living room she takes the cover off and the parrot says
"Bugger me what a lovely room"
Her daughter walks in and the parrot says
"Bugger me what a lovely girl."
Her husband walks in and the parrot says
"Hello Kevin."
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HS - I don't know if you are Welsh, but your post prompted me to look up the details of another Welsh horn player - Ifor James. I found the following in this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ifor_James:
"He was known among his students for sending them on curious errands such as paying hotel bills. He also had a puckish sense of humour. One former student recalls an incident where the two of them were at traffic lights in James' open-topped Morris Minor when a pretty girl walked alongside. James encouraged the younger man to "pinch her bottom as the lights go green, and I'll drive off". Needless to say when the young man did as bidden, James stayed put and turned to grin at the girl.
Welsh to the core, he famously averred that he only played the horn because he could not sing."
Wouldn't get away with that sort of behaviour in these politically correct days I think.
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