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  • johncorrigan
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    • Nov 2010
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    Edson Arantes do Nascimento - the legend is dead at 82

    I am so sad to hear of the death of Pele. I would have been nine, I suppose when I became aware of the World Cup in 1962 in Chile, and suddenly when we were playing football all my pals wanted to be Pele. It was the first time I remember anyone wanting to be anyone other than a St Mirren or Celtic or Scotland player when we were kicking the ball about. And we all wanted to be Number 10. From then on Pele became a hero even if we hardly ever saw him back then in those black and white days.
    In 1966 Brazil played a friendly against Scotland en route to the England World Cup. I was in school on the Renfrew Road in Paisley. It was lunchtime, I seem to recall, and a bus pulled up outside the Chiva’s regal whisky factory next door to us. All these guys got out of the bus. We were not used to seeing black people back then and immediately we realised it was the Brazil team come for a tour. We broke so many rules, climbing the fence or running round the long way to mob the players. Of course we were looking for Pele, but he wasn’t there, but we shook hands with those players and then the bell went and we all had to chase back round to get into our lines.
    The Brazilians were the greatest for us football-mad teenagers and that would remain with Pele always at the top. He was the epitome of all that was great in the magical game. Of course the high point of his career was the 1970 World Cup – the magnificent dummy against Uruguay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4c
    the wonderful header that brought out the amazing Banks save: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLam4RAbg8 (still brings goosebumps)
    and, of course, his weighted pass to Carlos Alberto to score that wonderful team goal in the final: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HbmeNKino
    There may have been greater players, I don’t know, but I’ll never have a hero like him in my lifetime. Nobody will give me the thrill that Pele gave in his football...a legend, an icon, a genius.
    Rest in Peace...and thanks.
    The Brazilian legend trained in Troon and Kilmarnock before a friendly against Scotland in 1966.
  • eighthobstruction
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6447

    #2
    ....a lovely tribute JC....yes hard to forget....I remember being sad as he was kicked off the park 1966WC....and of course the marvellous Mexico exploits
    bong ching

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #3
      The photo of Pele and Bobby Moore embracing after the Guadalajara match (also famous for that Banks save John listed) never loses its power to move, on so many levels. One of the great images of two great and iconic characters.... it spoke to me then, it still does....to many many people; not just football fans.

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25225

        #4
        Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
        I am so sad to hear of the death of Pele. I would have been nine, I suppose when I became aware of the World Cup in 1962 in Chile, and suddenly when we were playing football all my pals wanted to be Pele. It was the first time I remember anyone wanting to be anyone other than a St Mirren or Celtic or Scotland player when we were kicking the ball about. And we all wanted to be Number 10. From then on Pele became a hero even if we hardly ever saw him back then in those black and white days.
        In 1966 Brazil played a friendly against Scotland en route to the England World Cup. I was in school on the Renfrew Road in Paisley. It was lunchtime, I seem to recall, and a bus pulled up outside the Chiva’s regal whisky factory next door to us. All these guys got out of the bus. We were not used to seeing black people back then and immediately we realised it was the Brazil team come for a tour. We broke so many rules, climbing the fence or running round the long way to mob the players. Of course we were looking for Pele, but he wasn’t there, but we shook hands with those players and then the bell went and we all had to chase back round to get into our lines.
        The Brazilians were the greatest for us football-mad teenagers and that would remain with Pele always at the top. He was the epitome of all that was great in the magical game. Of course the high point of his career was the 1970 World Cup – the magnificent dummy against Uruguay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4c
        the wonderful header that brought out the amazing Banks save: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLam4RAbg8 (still brings goosebumps)
        and, of course, his weighted pass to Carlos Alberto to score that wonderful team goal in the final: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HbmeNKino
        There may have been greater players, I don’t know, but I’ll never have a hero like him in my lifetime. Nobody will give me the thrill that Pele gave in his football...a legend, an icon, a genius.
        Rest in Peace...and thanks.
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-west-64119646
        Thanks JC, that says all that I would want to say, mirroring my own experience of the WC and the great man from 1970.

        I think that part of his greatness was in how he really was a complete player, in ways that even the extraordinary Ronaldo and Messi perhaps aren’t , quite.

        Always the greatest in my mind.

        Last edited by teamsaint; 30-12-22, 16:29.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • johncorrigan
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 10409

          #5
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

          Always the greatest in my mind.

          Mine too, ts. Here's a nice bit of coverage from the Beeb website. I'd forgotten about that time he missed by a whisker from inside his own half.
          BBC Sport selects seven of the finest moments from Pele's stellar career to illustrate just what makes him so special.

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #6
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            Thanks JC, that says all that I would want to say, mirroring my own experience of the WC and the great man from 1970.

            I think that part of his greatness was in how he really was a complete player, in ways that even the extraordinary Ronaldo and Messi perhaps aren’t , quite.

            Always the greatest in my mind.

            Ah, but which Ronaldo?

            I would say only two other players are or were on the same level: Messi and Maradona.... both great in themselves and great for the team....could run the game, dominate the pitch, in a way that neither Ronaldo could.....

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            • johncorrigan
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 10409

              #7
              As a tribute to Pele, BBC1 showed the film of the Mexico '70 World Cup last night after 'MotD'.

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              • Globaltruth
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 4298

                #8
                Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
                As a tribute to Pele, BBC1 showed the film of the Mexico '70 World Cup last night after 'MotD'.
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...al-film-6-1970
                Channel 5 showed Escape to Victory. You can watch it until Jan 14.
                I heard Mike Summerbee talking about the making of the film on r4, apparently Pele did his cycle kick goal in 1 take.
                Ardiles was no slouch either, Bobby Moore plus famous players from around the world....and Stallone in goal.
                Dream team.
                Sort of

                simpler times.

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