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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18056

    Almost useless facts - UK has smaller land area than Michigan

    Michigan is the 11th US state by land area. 96,716 sq mi (250,493 km2)

    Turns out that it's larger in area than the whole of the UK.

    UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geogra...United_Kingdom Area = 248,532 square kilometres (95,960 sq mi)



    Now who in the UK ever thinks of Michigan?
  • LHC
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    • Jan 2011
    • 1572

    #2
    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    Michigan is the 11th US state by land area. 96,716 sq mi (250,493 km2)

    Turns out that it's larger in area than the whole of the UK.

    UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geogra...United_Kingdom Area = 248,532 square kilometres (95,960 sq mi)



    Now who in the UK ever thinks of Michigan?
    I think people have very little idea of the relative sizes of countries, not least because most maps use the Mercator projection to depict a 3D world in 2D. This has the effect of grossly exaggerating the size of countries in the northern hemisphere.

    This map produced by a scientist at the Met Office compares countries’ real sizes to their Mercator projections, and shows how much smaller the US, Canada and Russia are than they are generally perceived to be. The most striking difference is Greenland, which in standard maps appears to be similar size to Africa, but is in fact 14 times smaller.

    "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
    Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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    • gradus
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      • Nov 2010
      • 5637

      #3
      Fascinating, thank you.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
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        • Apr 2014
        • 7043

        #4
        Originally posted by gradus View Post
        Fascinating, thank you.
        It’s amazing how big Africa is. It really is the heart of the world which is why it’s a very good idea not to let it overheat and turn to desert.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
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          • Nov 2010
          • 20576

          #5
          Originally posted by LHC View Post
          I think people have very little idea of the relative sizes of countries, not least because most maps use the Mercator projection to depict a 3D world in 2D. This has the effect of grossly exaggerating the size of countries in the northern hemisphere.

          This map produced by a scientist at the Met Office compares countries’ real sizes to their Mercator projections, and shows how much smaller the US, Canada and Russia are than they are generally perceived to be. The most striking difference is Greenland, which in standard maps appears to be similar size to Africa, but is in fact 14 times smaller.
          It’s true that the Mercator projection distorts the areas closest to the poles. Any attempt to include the whole of Antarctica would require a map going to infinity, as the poles can never be reached in this projection. Of equal area projections, the Mollweide is the most widely used, though it bends the shapes of land masses towards the poles, hence the Mollweide Interrupted projection that involves large splits through the oceans (the side effect being Antarctica being split into three.

          The Gall project (stolen by Peters) is a rather ridiculous equal area projection that distorts shapes of land masses to an extreme extent.’

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          • richardfinegold
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            • Sep 2012
            • 7787

            #6
            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
            Michigan is the 11th US state by land area. 96,716 sq mi (250,493 km2)

            Turns out that it's larger in area than the whole of the UK.

            UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geogra...United_Kingdom Area = 248,532 square kilometres (95,960 sq mi)



            Now who in the UK ever thinks of Michigan?
            Speaking as someone who was born and raised in Detroit, I can comfortably assure you that there are millions of Michiganders who go entire days without thinking of the U.K.

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            • Joseph K
              Banned
              • Oct 2017
              • 7765

              #7
              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
              Speaking as someone who was born and raised in Detroit, I can comfortably assure you that there are millions of Michiganders who go entire days without thinking of the U.K.
              ... tho' not one particular household in Birmingham where I have close family.

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37907

                #8
                Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                Speaking as someone who was born and raised in Detroit, I can comfortably assure you that there are millions of Michiganders who go entire days without thinking of the U.K.
                And millions of non-Michiganders in the rest of the States too, I would think!

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                • Old Grumpy
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                  Speaking as someone who was born and raised in Detroit, I can comfortably assure you that there are millions of Michiganders who go entire days without thinking of the U.K.
                  That rather begs the question, is there such a thing as Mitchigeese?

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37907

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                    That rather begs the question, is there such a thing as Mitchigeese?
                    And what kinds of sauce do they use on their meals?

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                    • Andrew
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                      • Jan 2020
                      • 148

                      #11
                      I worked abroad in a number of countries during my time in the Civil Service, including the Democratic Republic Of Congo (A.K.A. Zaire, before that the Belgian Congo) which I was informed by the then Ambassador was bigger than the whole of the European Union! I never investigated if this was true, but looking at a map I can well believe it!
                      Major Denis Bloodnok, Indian Army (RTD) Coward and Bar, currently residing in Barnet, Hertfordshire!

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        #12
                        Fascinating post LHC. Sailors love the Mercator projection of course (unless they're doing huge distances, e.g. around the world) but that's an almost useless fact to most people. Mercator was a very bright chap though....working out how to represent on a flat piece of paper land and sea existing on a sphere....aaarrgh, stop.

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                        • Petrushka
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12367

                          #13
                          I remember a BBC 'Holiday' programme many years ago reporting on a holiday in Australia (I forget where exactly, possibly the Coral Reef) and an internal flight that was about a millimetre on the map was said on the programme to take three hours, roughly the equivalent from London to Moscow.

                          Australia doesn't actually look as big as I would have thought on this particular map.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • Dave2002
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18056

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            And what kinds of sauce do they use on their meals?
                            We once met some people with the surname "Goose". Consequently we often wondered - "were we going round to see the Gooses or the Geese?"

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                            • Sir Velo
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                              • Oct 2012
                              • 3277

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                              Michigan is the 11th US state by land area. 96,716 sq mi (250,493 km2)

                              Turns out that it's larger in area than the whole of the UK.
                              I don't think it every changed did it? It always was bigger than the UK - so no "turns out" about it!

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