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  • Quarky
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    • Dec 2010
    • 2649

    Taylor Swift in the Dock

    Assuming there are a fair few copyright sleuths on this board, I found the Taylor Swift law suit interesting. I seem to recall that only a quantum of originality is sufficient to establish copyright::

    The phrase "haters gonna hate" is at the centre of the case, which had previously been dismissed.


    A good read!
  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 17979

    #2
    Originally posted by Quarky View Post
    Assuming there are a fair few copyright sleuths on this board, I found the Taylor Swift law suit interesting. I seem to recall that only a quantum of originality is sufficient to establish copyright::

    The phrase "haters gonna hate" is at the centre of the case, which had previously been dismissed.


    A good read!
    Usual bonkers stuff. I'm gonna check it out.

    There are very odd quirks, such as you can copyright lyrics - though as here - some constraints may apply, and you can copyright notes and copyright arrangements, and even fonts and layout used for printed copies, but apparently you can't copyright chord sequences.

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22076

      #3
      Cases such as this seem to be made by individuals or bands few have heard of with songs few people have heard of against successful acts who have made loads of dosh. I wonder why this should be?

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      • Padraig
        Full Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 4204

        #4
        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        Cases such as this seem to be made by individuals or bands few have heard of with songs few people have heard of against successful acts who have made loads of dosh. I wonder why this should be?
        I read the article and what caught my eye was a reference to a song called All About That Bass. I knew of the song, but not the version mentioned that knocked Taylor Swift off the top spot - this version by Post Modern Jukebox European Tour. I enjoyed it, and as it is NOT off topic, I give you the link:

        Download & Stream This Song Here: http://pmjlive.com/essentials2Experience PMJ Live: https://pmjtour.comShop PMJ Music/Merch: http://www.shoppmj.comFollow U...

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        • jayne lee wilson
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 10711

          #5
          Originally posted by Padraig View Post
          I read the article and what caught my eye was a reference to a song called All About That Bass. I knew of the song, but not the version mentioned that knocked Taylor Swift off the top spot - this version by Post Modern Jukebox European Tour. I enjoyed it, and as it is NOT off topic, I give you the link:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLnZ1NQm2uk
          Great cover! But credit to the original writers & their brilliant version......
          “All About That Bass” by Meghan TrainorListen to Meghan Trainor: https://MeghanTrainor.lnk.to/listenYDWatch more Meghan Trainor videos: https://MeghanTrainor...

          Wasn't it this original one that hit No.1, keeping Taylor off it?

          It does look a very dodgy case, based around "playas gonna play" and "haters gonna hate".... makes money for the lawyers, but doesn't look like plagiarism to me....
          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 10-12-21, 17:26.

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          • Padraig
            Full Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 4204

            #6
            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
            Great cover! But credit to the original writers & their brilliant version......
            “All About That Bass” by Meghan TrainorListen to Meghan Trainor: https://MeghanTrainor.lnk.to/listenYDWatch more Meghan Trainor videos: https://MeghanTrainor...

            Wasn't it this original one that hit No.1, keeping Taylor off it?
            You are right! It's just that I prefer the HIP cover.

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6593

              #7
              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
              Usual bonkers stuff. I'm gonna check it out.

              There are very odd quirks, such as you can copyright lyrics - though as here - some constraints may apply, and you can copyright notes and copyright arrangements, and even fonts and layout used for printed copies, but apparently you can't copyright chord sequences.
              Yes and thank God because a classic chord sequence like the very opening chords of the Missa Solemnis - I , VI , IV, V is also the chord sequence that forms the basis of hundreds of pop songs and Broadway melodies . And Beethoven got it from Bach who got it from etc , etc ….The great Folk singer Pete Atkins used to do a spot featuring tunes with that sequence - he could have gone on for hours…
              Classic example : Unchained Melody which is in fact a really boring melody but gets its emotional power partly from the chord progression and also the film context. In the business the sequence is known as Tin Pan Alley default …

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