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  • kernelbogey
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5848

    Channel Four to be privatised?

    The Guardian is reporting that the Government is considering privatising Channel Four.
  • kernelbogey
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5848

    #2
    The Government repeatedly shuns requests to provide a spokesperson to Channel Four News: disgraceful cowardice, IMVHO.

    So now let's stop it being a state-sponsored tv channel!

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    • cat
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      • May 2019
      • 406

      #3
      Whenever I speak to anyone about Channel 4, they usually seem surprised when I tell them it's 51% state-owned.

      Does it need to be? Can't they fit the public service remit into a set of obligations for whichever private operator takes the controlling stake?

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 38015

        #4
        Originally posted by cat View Post
        Whenever I speak to anyone about Channel 4, they usually seem surprised when I tell them it's 51% state-owned.

        Does it need to be? Can't they fit the public service remit into a set of obligations for whichever private operator takes the controlling stake?
        If it remains state-owned the question doesn't arise.

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        • Richard Barrett
          Guest
          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          #5
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          If it remains state-owned the question doesn't arise.
          Exactly. So: let's list the advantages to the viewer of this privatisation, shall we? Can anyone think of any?

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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
            • 8871

            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
            Exactly. So: let's list the advantages to the viewer of this privatisation, shall we? Can anyone think of any?
            Well, now ..... er .... um .... yes .... but then again .... (I'll get back to you if I think of any)

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            • oddoneout
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              • Nov 2015
              • 9439

              #7
              Originally posted by cat View Post
              Whenever I speak to anyone about Channel 4, they usually seem surprised when I tell them it's 51% state-owned.

              Does it need to be? Can't they fit the public service remit into a set of obligations for whichever private operator takes the controlling stake?
              Obligations are all too easily dispensed with by various means, in fact it almost seems to be standard business practice these days. House building and sewage discharges spring to mind but I doubt it would take many minutes to come up with other examples.

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              • Dave2002
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                • Dec 2010
                • 18062

                #8
                Originally posted by cat View Post
                Whenever I speak to anyone about Channel 4, they usually seem surprised when I tell them it's 51% state-owned.

                Does it need to be? Can't they fit the public service remit into a set of obligations for whichever private operator takes the controlling stake?
                I thought it was already “owned”/operated by a private/commercial organisation - maybe ITV. Presumably not. It’s probably best left as it is. I dislike the adverts, but I fear that those would only get worse with a change of operator or operations. How could it be improved?

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                • LHC
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1577

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  I thought it was already “owned”/operated by a private/commercial organisation - maybe ITV. Presumably not. It’s probably best left as it is. I dislike the adverts, but I fear that those would only get worse with a change of operator or operations. How could it be improved?
                  When channel 4 was launched it took its public service remit rather more seriously than it appears to do so now. I can remember the joy each week of checking the TV listings to see which opera it was showing on the coming Sunday. One of the best was probably the film of Elektra, conducted by Karl Bohm and directed by Gotz Friedrich. It was a revelation at the time. It’s hard to imagine them even contemplating showing a full opera now.

                  Having said that, it did commission and show Friday Night Dinner, so it’s not all bad.
                  "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
                  Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 38015

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                    I thought it was already “owned”/operated by a private/commercial organisation - maybe ITV. Presumably not. It’s probably best left as it is. I dislike the adverts, but I fear that those would only get worse with a change of operator or operations. How could it be improved?
                    TV adverts in general are as moronic as I've ever known them to be. That said, the fact that the most imbecilic seem to be excessively on repeat during some programmes surely says something about the attitude of the programme's makers towards the target audiences? Perhaps some prior warning that these programmes contain advertisements based on the truth that you the viewers are regarded as idiots might adversely affect viewing figures.

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                    • LMcD
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                      • Sep 2017
                      • 8871

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LHC View Post
                      When channel 4 was launched it took its public service remit rather more seriously than it appears to do so now. I can remember the joy each week of checking the TV listings to see which opera it was showing on the coming Sunday. One of the best was probably the film of Elektra, conducted by Karl Bohm and directed by Gotz Friedrich. It was a revelation at the time. It’s hard to imagine them even contemplating showing a full opera now.

                      Having said that, it did commission and show Friday Night Dinner, so it’s not all bad.
                      You can replace 'channel' with 'BBC' .....

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                      • kernelbogey
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5848

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                        Exactly. So: let's list the advantages to the viewer of this privatisation, shall we? Can anyone think of any?
                        I think my post n2 indicated my view of the only group who would consider privatisation an advantage.

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                        • cat
                          Full Member
                          • May 2019
                          • 406

                          #13
                          Surely the main benefit of being state-owned should be that a channel is not then entirely beholden to its advertisers for income. But Channel 4 has always relied on advertisers for 100% of it's income. It is even prevented from selling it's programmes overseas, something which has made the BBC a tonne of money over the years.

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20582

                            #14
                            I wonder whether Channel 4 may have become a threat to the government, in that its news programmes are more thorough than the BBC's in digging to expose dodgy policies.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              I wonder whether Channel 4 may have become a threat to the government, in that its news programmes are more thorough than the BBC's in digging to expose dodgy policies.
                              Nail struck on the head, I think.

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