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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18062

    #16
    Happiness is watching the robot lawn mower cutting the grass - and the various birds coming down to pick stuff - don't know what - off the lawn.

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
      • 7834

      #17
      Scandinavian countries have historically high suicide rates. I don’t think that I will be looking to them for happiness primers

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      • LMcD
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        • Sep 2017
        • 8871

        #18
        Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
        Scandinavian countries have historically high suicide rates. I don’t think that I will be looking to them for happiness primers
        It's true - they do have very high suicide and divorce rates - and yet they regularly do very well in 'World's Happiest Country' polls. I believe Finland (not strictly a Scandinavian country, which is why I prefer to use the term 'Nordic' in these cases) came top in the most recent such survey.

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        • vinteuil
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 13079

          #19
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          ... yes, I don't see why a high suicide rate should necessarily be in conflict with a high happiness rate. I can imagine a society where people live well, and then when life gets too much for them, either physically or psychologically, they opt to end it. Sounds good to me.


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          • LMcD
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            • Sep 2017
            • 8871

            #20
            Slightly off-topic, but I'm intrigued to learn that Sandi Toksvig's partner Debbie measures 4'12" (sic).

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18062

              #21
              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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              ... yes, I don't see why a high suicide rate should necessarily be in conflict with a high happiness rate. I can imagine a society where people live well, and then when life gets too much for them, either physically or psychologically, they opt to end it. Sounds good to me.


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              Some countries also have high rates of alcoholism - and drug use.
              A doctor friend once suggested that cirrhosis of the liver was not such a terrible way to go - though that might not be the only outcome from sustained alcohol abuse.

              Hence "it was good while it lasted!"

              I'm not recommending this approach however.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 38015

                #22
                Happiness and contentment are probably synonymous for me, having reached a stage where I would not prefer to live anywhere else. I have experienced and done everything I would want out of life, and have all the possessions I ever want to have. That is all subject to future uncertainties, such as things wearing out and not being replaceable, and losing friends one way or another. I can get depressed: not so for myself - I am incredibly lucky in many ways to have landed on my feet, and especially to have lived through the 1960s and 1970s - but for changes I foresee in society already manifesting in people, and for the future of the planet, frankly.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22242

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                  Slightly off-topic, but I'm intrigued to learn that Sandi Toksvig's partner Debbie measures 4'12" (sic).
                  I bet you thought you could swear she was 5’!

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                  • LMcD
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8871

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Happiness and contentment are probably synonymous for me, having reached a stage where I would not prefer to live anywhere else. I have experienced and done everything I would want out of life, and have all the possessions I ever want to have. That is all subject to future uncertainties, such as things wearing out and not being replaceable, and losing friends one way or another. I can get depressed: not so for myself - I am incredibly lucky in many ways to have landed on my feet, and especially to have lived through the 1960s and 1970s - but for changes I foresee in society already manifesting in people, and for the future of the planet, frankly.
                    My sentiments exactly!

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                    • ardcarp
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11102

                      #25


                      Some might think this short series on R4 is off topic. But I guess the first episode (today) was pondering on how 'sentient' an octopus is. Can other animals (e.g. baby seals playing) experience happiness?

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                      • Bella Kemp
                        Full Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 491

                        #26
                        My chihuahuas laugh

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