Prince Philip 1921-2021

[oddoneout]

It is the first Saturday I have left R3 on apart from 2 R4 programs (that from the World service never fails to interest me) - normally I just listen to the 1st 30 mins of Record/CD review and possibly the opera if it's not from the Met - the rest of the day for a non-jazz person is possibly taken up with a couple of R4 programs but if I want music on, which is not always if I have serious brain work to do, I hit my too extensive CD collection.

The biggest pleasure for me has been uninterrupted listening without jarring adverts - though I suspect after a day or so I'd miss the more demanding speech/music programs such as COTW.

After a while I thnk that a certain amount of structure as in a planned concert programme would be welcome and as you say a speech based(as differentiated from the morning schedule chat ) item, but for now this Saturday's listening has been a real pleasure, and just what I needed to process trains of thought set off by a combination of old papers I had been going through and yesterday's news.
Am puzzled, and irritated(as I wanted to check an item), by the removal of Petroc's slot details from the online schedule; it was there this morning so why not now? What does appear instead is incorrect.

[Serial_Apologist]

Hs anyone at the Beeb thought of presenting music the D of E liked? I remember Peter Maxwell Davies, when Master of the Queen's Music, saying Her Maj had told him that neither she nor Philip were philistines, as they were portrayed in the media.

[Bella Kemp]

I think the problem with this saturation coverage on the BBC is that it will diminish what will happen when the Queen herself dies: an event that would surely merit a stopping of all the clocks, as it were. I am a monarchist (a West Indian lady of a certain age, how could I not be?) but I am - albeit a little shamefacedly - vaguely embarrassed by all this obsequiousness. A measure of decent respect on the day of his passing would have been appropriate. What has happened has been too much and that's a shame.

[oddoneout]

Hs anyone at the Beeb thought of presenting music the D of E liked? I remember Peter Maxwell Davies, when Master of the Queen's Music, saying Her Maj had told him that neither she nor Philip were philistines, as they were portrayed in the media.

If they have, does/would anyone know what such music was?

[muzzer]

I think the problem with this saturation coverage on the BBC is that it will diminish what will happen when the Queen herself dies: an event that would surely merit a stopping of all the clocks, as it were. I am a monarchist (a West Indian lady of a certain age, how could I not be?) but I am - albeit a little shamefacedly - vaguely embarrassed by all this obsequiousness. A measure of decent respect on the day of his passing would have been appropriate. What has happened has been too much and that's a shame.

Agree very much with you that it will diminish the passing of HMQ, indeed is almost doing so in advance.

[oddoneout]

Agree very much with you that it will diminish the passing of HMQ, indeed is almost doing so in advance.

The BBC is fated to get things wrong in such matters given the amount of political interference - real and perceived - it now faces, but I fear that whatever lessons might be learned from this event will not be used constructively or interpreted correctly or, even worse but sadly quite likely in my view, the opportunity to learn will (for various reasons) be ignored.

[Jazzrook]

Will be fascinating to see what Private Eye makes of all this in the next issue.

https://www.private-eye.co.uk

JR

[Pulcinella]

How kind and considerate our PM is: he will stand aside so that another member of the royal family can attend the funeral in his place.

[oddoneout]

How kind and considerate our PM is: he will stand aside so that another member of the royal family can attend the funeral in his place.

Being expected to comb his hair and look halfway presentable was obviously a step too far...

[Frances_iom]

There was a fascinating discussion (all too short) in R4's 'Sunday' program today on the Orthodox connections of Prince Philip + his family - his greataunt Elizabeth is a saint of the Orthodox church for example.
This program all too often starts a truly interesting discussion (today's was on the Belfast troubles which IMO need serious consideration by all parties) then slams it shut due to lack of time.

[cloughie]

Proper hymns on the Local Radio networked service this morning inc The Lord’s my shepherd, I vow to thee my country and Thine be the glory.

[Ein Heldenleben]

If they have, does/would anyone know what such music was?

Petroc did a musical tribute which suggested some links to the music played . Unfortunately I wasn’t paying much attention. I heard on one report that Tom Bowling was a favourite piece of music.

[Pulcinella]

Petroc did a musical tribute which suggested some links to the music played . Unfortunately I wasn’t paying much attention. I heard on one report that Tom Bowling was a favourite piece of music.

And, as mentioned on one of the Choral Evensong threads, Britten's Jubilate Deo in C (1961) was 'Written for St George's Chapel, Windsor, at the request of the HRH The Duke of Edinburgh', as a companion piece for Britten's Te Deum in C of 1934.

[french frank]

Being expected to comb his hair and look halfway presentable was obviously a step too far...

That crossed my mind when he was paying his tribute outside No 10 - what a mess!

I was musing on how the notion of 'privilege' can be interpreted. Never having taking much notice of 'the Royals', their upbringing, their marriages, their babies &c, the DoE's early life was something I knew nothing about: grandfather assassinated, family exiled by the military when he was a baby, coming home one day, aged 8, to find his mother had been removed to a psychiatric hospital and hardly seeing her at all for the following years, his father swanning off and leaving his son to be looked after by relatives over in England. Very privileged at every turn, no doubt, but is it the kind of privilege you'd have liked? Apparently, when asked what language he spoke at home, he said, "What home?" Win some, lose some, even with privileges.

[EnemyoftheStoat]

8 days of official mourning seems to me excessive, I wonder if there’s a specific reason for this?

Just making sure? I mean, we know where three days (or should that be two, or even one?) can get you...