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  • cat
    Full Member
    • May 2019
    • 406

    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
    Inept as you say(have they now corrected things?) but I have been astonished, particularly recently(during the time of HRH's hospitalisation) by the number of folks - including some who should know better - who think that HRH is the correct title when referring to HM The Queen. If the 'country of origin' can get it wrong so often then not surprising elsewhere can make a mistake?
    The whole Royal/Highness/Majesty vs Humble/Obedient/Servant convention of address only arose in the 1370s because Richard II was so full of himself.

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 13079

      Originally posted by cat View Post
      The whole Royal/Highness/Majesty vs Humble/Obedient/Servant convention of address only arose in the 1370s because Richard II was so full of himself.
      ... well that's the Plantagenets for you. The House of Normandy was, I am assured, much more cuddly


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      • eighthobstruction
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 6474

        Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
        For those interested this is Peter Sisson’s eyewitness account of the events following the last major Royal demise. The final paragraph does tend to back up the “it’s all over the top” brigade.

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-death.html
        ....jolly good....
        bong ching

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26606

          Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
          For those interested this is Peter Sisson’s eyewitness account of the events following the last major Royal demise. The final paragraph does tend to back up the “it’s all over the top” brigade.

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ers-death.html
          The broadcasting overkill this time round feels to have less to do with genuine respect than about fear of censure by the flag-fondling shower who purport to govern us these days
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Ein Heldenleben
            Full Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 7149

            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
            The broadcasting overkill this time round feels to have less to do with genuine respect than about fear of censure by the flag-fondling shower who purport to govern us these days
            We’ll never know . However ,like quite a few others it appears , I am enjoying the uninterrupted music , low key professional presentation on Radio 3 at the moment. Also the feast of English music (even though they faded out of Nimrod before the cadence on the news last night - just as I said to my wife “I bet they fade out before the cadence “ )

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26606

              Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
              We’ll never know . However ,like quite a few others it appears , I am enjoying the uninterrupted music , low key professional presentation on Radio 3 at the moment.
              Yes true. Good to turn on and hear Finzi’s Eclogue rather than Jess Whatsername grin-talking to someone I’ve never heard of
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Padraig
                Full Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 4266

                Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                [COLOR="#0000FF"]The broadcasting overkill this time round feels to have less to do with genuine respect than about fear of censure by the flag-fondling shower who purport to govern us these days.
                One for the book; has a certain universally applicable element within.

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                • Ein Heldenleben
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 7149

                  Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                  Yes true. Good to turn on and find Finzi’s Eclogue rather than Jess Whatsername grin-talking to someone I’ve never heard of
                  Superb Elgar from Davis and the Staatskapelle earlier...Elgar and Finzi really nail the elegiac if I can put it that crudely...

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                  • kernelbogey
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5848

                    Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                    The broadcasting overkill this time round feels to have less to do with genuine respect than about fear of censure by the flag-fondling shower who purport to govern us these days
                    'Flag fondlers' is going straight into my lexicon: thanks Nick!

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9439

                      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                      'Flag fondlers' is going straight into my lexicon: thanks Nick!
                      It certainly is more acceptable than the version that has been in circulation recently which, although it rhymes, is also horribly crude. "Fondlers " conjures up, possibly accurately, something altogether more sinister.
                      I have been enjoying the music and its presentation today too. I thought Petroc's slot this morning was well done. I know the postponement of BaL will have irritated some, but Saturdays haven't had much if any appeal to me for quite a while now. I'm not an opera person, and what precedes it during the day rarely(sometimes Inside Music) activates the on switch.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 13079

                        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                        It certainly is more acceptable than the version that has been in circulation recently which, although it rhymes, is also horribly crude. "Fondlers " conjures up, possibly accurately, something altogether more sinister.
                        ... yes, much creepier. We're adopting it here


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                        • eighthobstruction
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6474

                          ....i waive on flags....
                          bong ching

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                          • Lancashire Lass
                            Full Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 118

                            i know it's considered fashionable on these messageboards to sneer, and anyone has the right to do so, but just to put the opposite point of view (and I know some previous posters have also expressed regret about the DoE) I am taken aback by how much his death has affected me, even though I am a royalist so could have expected it. He and the Queen have been there all my life and served this country and the Commonwealth with exceptional loyalty, besides -- not of their own choosing -- providing a soap opera which many families can identify with -- divorces, doomed love, estranged relatives, etc. -- and millions in the UK and around the world respect that and feel the loss.

                            I'm not in tears but I just feel stunned, can't settle to anything much (not that I've got anything pressing) so really all I'm fit for ATM is watching the TV coverage (up to a point -- I'll admit it's pretty repetitive) or listening to Radio 3. I agree wholeheartedly that the programming is a real improvement over the usual fare. But what I think is a bit unfair about some of the comments on here is that they fail to acknowledge that there are some people out there (like me) who find this programming is a comfort and a solace at a time of great sadness.

                            That's all!

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                            • gurnemanz
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7451

                              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                              Yes true. Good to turn on and hear Finzi’s Eclogue rather than Jess Whatsername grin-talking to someone I’ve never heard of
                              Alas, this is the sort of crude and hurtful comment which does not appeal to me at all. Despite being an old fogey and Finzi fan myself I hope I don't end up only being being interested in people I've heard of and presenters who talk like me.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20582

                                Originally posted by Lancashire Lass View Post
                                i know it's considered fashionable on these messageboards to sneer, and anyone has the right to do so, but just to put the opposite point of view (and I know some previous posters have also expressed regret about the DoE) I am taken aback by how much his death has affected me, even though I am a royalist so could have expected it. He and the Queen have been there all my life and served this country and the Commonwealth with exceptional loyalty, besides -- not of their own choosing -- providing a soap opera which many families can identify with -- divorces, doomed love, estranged relatives, etc. -- and millions in the UK and around the world respect that and feel the loss.

                                I'm not in tears but I just feel stunned, can't settle to anything much (not that I've got anything pressing) so really all I'm fit for ATM is watching the TV coverage (up to a point -- I'll admit it's pretty repetitive) or listening to Radio 3. I agree wholeheartedly that the programming is a real improvement over the usual fare. But what I think is a bit unfair about some of the comments on here is that they fail to acknowledge that there are some people out there (like me) who find this programming is a comfort and a solace at a time of great sadness.

                                That's all!
                                I don’t think anyone wants the broadcasts not to happen. It’s the excess that causes people to question the TV and radio response. One BBC channel would’ve sufficed yesterday - not every single BBC TV and radio channel.

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