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  • Leinster Lass
    Banned
    • Oct 2020
    • 1099

    Introducing The Forumistas' Help Desk

    I've been contacted by Forum members who, apparently too embarrassed to reveal their ignorance in public, have asked me to explain/translate/interpret some of the more erudite language and phrases that crop up fairly often when certain subjects are being discussed. Sometimes I can help, sometimes not. I wonder if a thread dedicated to such queries might be of general benefit, as the answers to such queries might help us widen our vocabularies, sharpen up our brains and indeed learn to express ourselves more clearly.
    The current 'trending' phrase that has been confusing my interlocutors (oh, I say!) is:
    'too studiedly ton neutre'
    (Italics as per the message in question - not mine. I don't know whether they're significant in themselves).
    By the way, is 'commodification', which is new to me, more or less the same thing as the regularly used 'commoditization'?
    'Conspiratorially Alan Curtis' - hmmmm .....is that a googleable phrase, I wonder?
    (Queries relating to obscure jargon. acronyms and abbreviations are welcome).
    Last edited by Leinster Lass; 24-01-21, 11:03.
  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22225

    #2
    [QUOTE=Leinster Lass;830645]I've been contacted by Forum members who, apparently too embarrassed to reveal their ignorance in public, have asked me to explain/translate/interpret some of the more erudite language and phrases that crop up fairly often when certain subjects are being discussed. Sometimes I can help, sometimes not. I wonder if a thread dedicated to such queries might be of general benefit, as the answers to such queries might help us widen our vocabularies, sharpen up our brains and indeed learn to express ourselves more clearly.
    The current 'trending' phrase that has been confusing my interlocutors (oh, I say!) is:
    'too studiedly ton neutre'
    (Italics as per the message in question - not mine. I don't know whether they're significant in themselves).
    By the way, is 'commodification', which is new to me, more or less the same thing as the regularly used 'commoditization'?
    'Conspiratorially Alan Curtis' - hmmmm .....is that a googleable phrase, I wonder?
    (Queries relating to obscure jargon. acronyms and abbreviations are welcome).[/QUO

    Maybe now we are not in the EU languages other than English should not be used without translation! - langue dans la joue peut etre!

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #3
      Originally posted by Leinster Lass View Post
      I've been contacted by Forum members who, apparently too embarrassed to reveal their ignorance in public, have asked me to explain/translate/interpret some of the more erudite language and phrases that crop up fairly often when certain subjects are being discussed. Sometimes I can help, sometimes not. I wonder if a thread dedicated to such queries might be of general benefit, as the answers to such queries might help us widen our vocabularies, sharpen up our brains and indeed learn to express ourselves more clearly.
      The current 'trending' phrase that has been confusing my interlocutors (oh, I say!) is:
      'too studiedly ton neutre'
      (Italics as per the message in question - not mine. I don't know whether they're significant in themselves).
      By the way, is 'commodification', which is new to me, more or less the same thing as the regularly used 'commoditization'?
      'Conspiratorially Alan Curtis' - hmmmm .....is that a googleable phrase, I wonder?
      (Queries relating to obscure jargon. acronyms and abbreviations are welcome).
      I continue to find myself more than a little surprised that some accessing this site via the Internet have not yet discovered how to make use of Internet search services such as Duck Duck Go or eventhe dreaded Google.

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      • Ein Heldenleben
        Full Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 7076

        #4
        Originally posted by Leinster Lass View Post
        I've been contacted by Forum members who, apparently too embarrassed to reveal their ignorance in public, have asked me to explain/translate/interpret some of the more erudite language and phrases that crop up fairly often when certain subjects are being discussed. Sometimes I can help, sometimes not. I wonder if a thread dedicated to such queries might be of general benefit, as the answers to such queries might help us widen our vocabularies, sharpen up our brains and indeed learn to express ourselves more clearly.
        The current 'trending' phrase that has been confusing my interlocutors (oh, I say!) is:
        'too studiedly ton neutre'
        (Italics as per the message in question - not mine. I don't know whether they're significant in themselves).
        By the way, is 'commodification', which is new to me, more or less the same thing as the regularly used 'commoditization'?
        'Conspiratorially Alan Curtis' - hmmmm .....is that a googleable phrase, I wonder?
        (Queries relating to obscure jargon. acronyms and abbreviations are welcome).
        It doesn’t help that I should have written Adam not Alan! . I think the phrase is understandable if you’ve read the rest of the thread where he is referred to. Part of the problem is that with long threads most people , including me , haven’t got time to read backwards as it were ..any thoughts ?

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9366

          #5
          [QUOTE=cloughie;830664]
          Originally posted by Leinster Lass View Post
          I've been contacted by Forum members who, apparently too embarrassed to reveal their ignorance in public, have asked me to explain/translate/interpret some of the more erudite language and phrases that crop up fairly often when certain subjects are being discussed. Sometimes I can help, sometimes not. I wonder if a thread dedicated to such queries might be of general benefit, as the answers to such queries might help us widen our vocabularies, sharpen up our brains and indeed learn to express ourselves more clearly.
          The current 'trending' phrase that has been confusing my interlocutors (oh, I say!) is:
          'too studiedly ton neutre'
          (Italics as per the message in question - not mine. I don't know whether they're significant in themselves).
          By the way, is 'commodification', which is new to me, more or less the same thing as the regularly used 'commoditization'?
          'Conspiratorially Alan Curtis' - hmmmm .....is that a googleable phrase, I wonder?
          (Queries relating to obscure jargon. acronyms and abbreviations are welcome).[/QUO

          Maybe now we are not in the EU languages other than English should not be used without translation! - langue dans la joue peut etre!
          Leaves us with Gaelic? Puzzled that an extra bit has appeared when clicking reply but not on your OP
          Something odd has happened with the whole thing oh well never mind.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22225

            #6
            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            I continue to find myself more than a little surprised that some accessing this site via the Internet have not yet discovered how to make use of Internet search services such as Duck Duck Go or eventhe dreaded Google.
            Use search services regularly but I would decline using a service with a stupid name like Duck Duck Go!

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              Use search services regularly but I would decline using a service with a stupid name like Duck Duck Go!
              Your loss. It is a great deal less intrusive than Google. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/duck...search-privacy

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9366

                #8
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                I continue to find myself more than a little surprised that some accessing this site via the Internet have not yet discovered how to make use of Internet search services such as Duck Duck Go or eventhe dreaded Google.
                Perhaps have tried and not much the wiser? Even if that isn't the case it might be kinder to keep your surprise to yourself in view of the first sentence of LL's OP?

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #9
                  Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                  Perhaps have tried and not much the wiser? Even if that isn't the case it might be kinder to keep your surprise to yourself in view of the first sentence of LL's OP?
                  And perhaps not.

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25240

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Your loss. It is a great deal less intrusive than Google. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/duck...search-privacy
                    Yes indeed.
                    Mind you, I had to google “ Duckduckgo.......”
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18057

                      #11
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      Yes indeed.
                      Mind you, I had to google “ Duckduckgo.......”
                      Perhaps easier than writing or saying "I had to Duckduckgo Duckduckgo".

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                      • Richard Barrett
                        Guest
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 6259

                        #12
                        Your mileage may vary... "commodification" is a word I've frequently come across, "commoditization" never. I guess this because the first is common in socialist literature, the second (which I had to look up!) in business literature. I hadn't come across "ton neutre" used in English before but surely it's pretty obvious what's meant. If one doesn't know what someone means isn't it the best idea just to ask them, or look up the unknown word or phrase? I mean rather than send a PM to someone who's at pains to come over as a card-carrying anti-intellectual.

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                        • gradus
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5637

                          #13
                          Firefox delivers DuckDuckgo to me as the search engine to use:

                          'DuckDuckGo is an internet search engine that emphasizes protecting searchers' privacy and avoiding the filter bubble of personalized search results. DuckDuckGo distinguishes itself from other search engines by not profiling its users and by showing all users the same search results for a given search term.Wikipedia'

                          Perhaps a little confusingly for forumistas, it is abbreviated to DDG.

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22225

                            #14
                            Whatever happened to:


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                            • Frances_iom
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 2420

                              #15
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              Yes indeed.
                              Mind you, I had to google “ Duckduckgo.......”
                              It's what makes this forum so different from many others - possibly the majority of posters being extremely bright, experts in erudite subjects, able to string together long paragraphs of words for which as a retired engineer I need immediate access to a dictionary yet oh so unworldly and apparently so unaware of the mechanism by which Google makes surveillance capitalism such an extremely profitable + monopolistic industry

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