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  • jayne lee wilson
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    #16
    As I've just been taking the time (!) to explain ton neutre etc on the Listening thread.......

    ​Just Google it.... oh please, people, come on....the internet has been there for some years (!) now so just use it to your own advantage and greater knowledge and awareness...

    WAYLTN da capo: So if you don't know it, look it up; then plant it in your soul and grow it....

    But if anyone asks me about anything directly, I will always post the reply on the relevant thread. See Listening for the recents...
    Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 24-01-21, 13:58.

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22206

      #17
      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
      Your mileage may vary... "commodification" is a word I've frequently come across, "commoditization" never. I guess this because the first is common in socialist literature, the second (which I had to look up!) in business literature. I hadn't come across "ton neutre" used in English before but surely it's pretty obvious what's meant. If one doesn't know what someone means isn't it the best idea just to ask them, or look up the unknown word or phrase? I mean rather than send a PM to someone who's at pains to come over as a card-carrying anti-intellectual.
      Not to be confused with the vetspeak ‘tom neutered’ then !

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      • cloughie
        Full Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 22206

        #18
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        As I've just been taking the time (!) to explain ton neutre etc on the Listening thread.......

        ​Just Google it.... oh please, people, come on....the internet has been there for some years (!) now so just use it to your own advantage and greater knowledge and awareness...


        WAYLTN da capo: So if you don't know it, look it up; then plant it in your soul and grow it....


        But if anyone asks me about anything directly, I will always post the reply on the relevant thread.
        Google beats gobbledygook then Jayne.

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        • Richard Barrett
          Guest
          • Jan 2016
          • 6259

          #19
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          Not to be confused with the vetspeak ‘tom neutered’ then !

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #20
            Originally posted by cloughie View Post
            Not to be confused with the vetspeak ‘tom neutered’ then !
            YOUR MISSION, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT, IS:
            Use ton neutre and tom neutered in a single memorable (preferably funny) line....

            Out to tender for all comers.....

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22206

              #21
              Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
              YOUR MISSION, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT, IS:
              Use ton neutre and tom neutered in a single memorable (preferably funny) line....

              Out to tender for all comers.....
              Settle for a ill -scanning limerick, Jayne?


              A beige cat whose name was Ton Neutre
              Was due for the snip and was sure to
              Be going to get
              A short visit to the vet
              Having ‘tom neutered’ entered on his computer.

              The depths that a wintry day in Lockdown takes us!

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              • Leinster Lass
                Banned
                • Oct 2020
                • 1099

                #22
                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                As I've just been taking the time (!) to explain ton neutre etc on the Listening thread.......

                ​Just Google it.... oh please, people, come on....the internet has been there for some years (!) now so just use it to your own advantage and greater knowledge and awareness...

                WAYLTN da capo: So if you don't know it, look it up; then plant it in your soul and grow it....

                But if anyone asks me about anything directly, I will always post the reply on the relevant thread. See Listening for the recents...
                I'm not sure of the significance of the exclamation mark ...does it indicate a degree of impatience or is the 'time' in question musical? I don't mind googling relatively straightforward terms, but whole phrases take too long, I'm afraid. I'm afraid that I don't understand what 'Listening for the recents' means .... recent whats? (I didn't know that 'recent' was a noun).

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12957

                  #23
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                  ... but I do wish this Forum had a rule forbidding ambiguous or not-previously-explained abbreviations/ acronyms. Is EA Alkers or Alpie? RFG richardfinegold or rathfarnhamgirl (who may have transmogrified to a Leinster incarnation... ).

                  Yes, google can often guide one to a solution to some abbreviations / acronyms. But sometimes not unambiguously...

                  Discover the meaning, origin, popularity and numerology of the name Wayltn. Learn how to pronounce Wayltn, explore Wayltn's voice pronunciations, and find out the meaning of each letter in Wayltn.


                  .

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                  • Leinster Lass
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2020
                    • 1099

                    #24
                    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                    .

                    ... but I do wish this Forum had a rule forbidding ambiguous or not-previously-explained abbreviations/ acronyms. Is EA Alkers or Alpie? RFG richardfinegold or rathfarnhamgirl (who may have transmogrified to a Leinster incarnation... ).

                    Yes, google can often guide one to a solution to some abbreviations / acronyms. But sometimes not unambiguously...

                    .


                    That's precisely why I changed to Leinster Lass - just trying to be helpful, as usual!

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Leinster Lass View Post
                      I'm not sure of the significance of the exclamation mark ...does it indicate a degree of impatience or is the 'time' in question musical? I don't mind googling relatively straightforward terms, but whole phrases take too long, I'm afraid. I'm afraid that I don't understand what 'Listening for the recents' means .... recent whats? (I didn't know that 'recent' was a noun).
                      Phew! One more time the, before I hit the real, and the Bohemian Woods and Fields.........

                      'Listening for the recents' - recent posts on the "What are you listening to now" thread....

                      "Taking the time".... going to the trouble of explanation, of various concepts and phrases.....I mean, I could just ignore the queries, but dont worry - I will explain as "time" (always a squeezed commodity here) allows....

                      Googling "whole phrases" may lead you into whole or partial micro-universes of adventurous knowledge and perceptions. Try it. Follow where your curiosity leads.

                      OK! Cognac, wellies..... I'm off....

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                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12334

                        #26
                        I never had the benefit of a university education but consider myself well read (and have been on a quiz team that beat another that included a Brain of Britain and a Millionaire million pound winner on their side) and I rarely if ever come across anything on the Forum that I don't understand. Should it happen it's simplicity itself to Google.

                        Ton neutre didn't really take much working out in the context in which JLW used it and I know very little French.

                        It would be a very dull Forum if we had to use 'cat sat on the mat' language all the time and felt unable to express ourselves for fear that others won't accept a challenge for 'the little grey cells'
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Leinster Lass
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2020
                          • 1099

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                          Phew! One more time the, before I hit the real, and the Bohemian Woods and Fields.........

                          'Listening for the recents' - recent posts on the "What are you listening to now" thread....

                          "Taking the time".... going to the trouble of explanation, of various concepts and phrases.....I mean, I could just ignore the queries, but dont worry - I will explain as "time" (always a squeezed commodity here) allows....

                          Googling "whole phrases" may lead you into whole or partial micro-universes of adventurous knowledge and perceptions. Try it. Follow where your curiosity leads.

                          OK! Cognac, wellies..... I'm off....
                          Hit the real what? Seriously, I'd like to know. As for the reference to Bohemia's Woods and Fields .... Ma Vlast? Smetana? Or are you alluding to the episode of Inspector Morse entitled 'A Walk In The Woods'?

                          Perhaps oi'm just tick ... I have to use up quite a lot of my limited brainpower working out how much peat I need to dig up to keep warm for the rest of the winter. Most of what's left is required to help me improve my potato-peeling technique. Somebody more sensitive than me might regard references to cats sitting on mats as a tad patronising, but I guess that's one way of making the point.

                          Sorry I asked!
                          Last edited by Leinster Lass; 24-01-21, 15:36.

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                          • Frances_iom
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 2418

                            #28
                            much too late in the year to dig peat - its a summer job as needs to dry out - as you may know it then requires a wide hearth or Chiollagh in Manx

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                            • Leinster Lass
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2020
                              • 1099

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                              much too late in the year to dig peat - its a summer job as needs to dry out - as you may know it then requires a wide hearth or Chiollagh in Manx
                              NOW she tells me!
                              Oh - I've just realized what the 'iom' stand for...I thought it meant that you were the proud owner of some kind of certificate attesting (is that the right word?) your advanced driving skills.
                              Update: SILLY ME - Peel is a place on the Isle of Man, isn't it?

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                              • oddoneout
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 9310

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                                YOUR MISSION, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT, IS:
                                Use ton neutre and tom neutered in a single memorable (preferably funny) line....

                                Out to tender for all comers.....
                                "Available for re-homing
                                Tom, neutered
                                Colour ton neutre
                                Would suit Kelly Hoppen afficionados"

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