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  • Leinster Lass
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    I'm Sorry I Haven't A Nickname

    Some symphonies have had names attached to them, not always by the composer. Some are arguably more suitable than others. Suggestions for improvements to these names, or names for symphonies hitherto unnamed, are welcome. Might I suggest:
    Haydn's Symphony No. 18: The Franchise
    Haydn's Symphony No. 70: The Speed Limit
    Mahler's Symphony No. 9: The 'Don't Tempt Fate'
    Any Nielsen symphony (take your pick): The Unpronounceable
    Shostakovitch's Symphony No. 15: The 'Thank You Giacomo and Richard'.
    Beethoven's Symphony No. 5: The 'Come In, It's Not Locked'.
  • cloughie
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    • Dec 2011
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    #2
    Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
    Some symphonies have had names attached to them, not always by the composer. Some are arguably more suitable than others. Suggestions for improvements to these names, or names for symphonies hitherto unnamed, are welcome. Might I suggest:
    Haydn's Symphony No. 18: The Franchise
    Haydn's Symphony No. 70: The Speed Limit
    Mahler's Symphony No. 9: The 'Don't Tempt Fate'
    Any Nielsen symphony (take your pick): The Unpronounceable
    Shostakovitch's Symphony No. 15: The 'Thank You Giacomo and Richard'.
    Beethoven's Symphony No. 5: The 'Come In, It's Not Locked'.
    Bruckner 9 (The nearly finished)
    Elgar 3 (The Hardly Started) or (The payne)
    Mozart 37 (The what happened there then)

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    • Leinster Lass
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      • Oct 2020
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      #3
      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
      Bruckner 9 (The nearly finished)
      Elgar 3 (The Hardly Started) or (The payne)
      Mozart 37 (The what happened there then)
      I was studiously avoiding Bruckner, but since you've introduced him: any of nos. 2 to 9: The 'Stop Me If You've Heard This Before'.
      Saint-Saens 3rd symphony: The 'Don't Stop Me Now'.

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
        I was studiously avoiding Bruckner, but since you've introduced him: any of nos. 2 to 9: The 'Stop Me If You've Heard This Before'.
        Saint-Saens 3rd symphony: The 'Don't Stop Me Now'.
        Beethoven: Symphony No 3 "The Eroica" (Later edition with augmented Dudley Moore conclusion)

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        • Leinster Lass
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          • Oct 2020
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          #5
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          Beethoven: Symphony No 3 "The Eroica" (Later edition with augmented Dudley Moore conclusion)
          No 't', vicar?

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          • Roslynmuse
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            • Jun 2011
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            #6
            There have been times when I have wondered if Nielsen missed a trick by not calling any of his "The Impenetrable", and I've definitely sat through Bruckner's "Interminable" (applicable to whichever I'm listening to). Sorry - my blind spots, my loss, I know!

            I was listening to the Franck Symphony earlier, and given that I first knew it (almost) in Peter Warlock's irreverent arrangement, I always think of it as "The Codpiece".

            Provided to YouTube by NAXOS of America2 Cod Pieces: No. 2, The Old Codger · Kevin BowyerOrgan Party, Vol. 3℗ 2018 Priory RecordsReleased on: 2018-02-16Artis...

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            • jayne lee wilson
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              • Jul 2011
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              #7
              Sibelius Symphonies:

              No.1 - A Song of Ice and Fire
              No.2 - The Battle Hymn of the Republic
              No.3 - A Pastoral Symphony
              No.4 - Dark is Life, is Death
              No.5 - The Hymn of the Big Wheel
              No.6 - Philosophical Investigations
              No.7 - In My End is My Beginning

              ***

              Nielsen is an interesting case. 2-4 are, obviously, very aptly named: the Espansiva is his Pastoral, the mind broadening to greet the meadow, and the 4th is a great fount of volcanic fiery energy: "Inextinguishable".... “Inestinguibile”.... is a more original and poetical match for the music than it is usually given credit for. Hard to improve on these.
              The 6th’s tag, the Semplice, is of course ironic, even sarcastic, in its denial and deflection. Somewhat akin to Mozart calling K563 a “Divertimento”.

              But what of the 1st and 5th? One of the very greatest symphonies of the 20thC, the 5th was probably best left to speak for itself; he must have known what he had created; no limit to its many meanings, so no name to limit its suggestive power.
              Similarly with No.1 - it announces its exuberant arrival in the musical world: “I am here, you better take me seriously”… perhaps it needs no more, unless one takes a cue from the 1st movement’s header: allegro orgoglioso….
              But we don’t yet have “orgoglious” in English. Rather a shame really…
              Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 30-12-20, 04:27.

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20575

                #8
                Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                I was studiously avoiding Bruckner, but since you've introduced him: any of nos. 2 to 9: The 'Stop Me If You've Heard This Before’

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                • Pulcinella
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                  • Feb 2014
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                  I was studiously avoiding Bruckner, but since you've introduced him: any of nos. 2 to 9: The 'Stop Me If You've Heard This Before'.
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post




                  Tippett 2: The unbeatable

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                  • Leinster Lass
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                    • Oct 2020
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post




                    Tippett 2: The unbeatable
                    Tippett 4: The Creepy Phone Call
                    Rachmaninov 1: The Hunchback's Horror
                    Dvorak 1: The Bells Of St Trinian's
                    Last edited by Leinster Lass; 30-12-20, 10:33.

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                    • jayne lee wilson
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                      • Jul 2011
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                      Tippett 4: The Creepy Phone Call
                      Rachmaninov 1: The Hunchback's Horror
                      Dvorak 1: The Bells Of St Trinian's
                      If you want to rename a musical work at least try to make it poetically apt (to the music) or funny; none of these are either.....
                      So here we are, another excuse for skittish Brucknerian insult....did you really have to..?...... oh, so sorry for taking the bait again!

                      Another depressingly trivialising thread (I tried to raise the tone of it), to which I shall contribute no further....
                      I am very close to leaving this demeaned and debased forum altogether.....

                      But for now, I'll find wisdom among the trees, birds and horses.....
                      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 30-12-20, 13:37.

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                      • Leinster Lass
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                        • Oct 2020
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                        If you want to rename a musical work at least try to make it poetically apt or funny; none of these are either.....
                        So here we are, another excuse for skittish Brucknerian insult...I tried to raise the tone of it.... oh, so sorry for taking the bait again!

                        Another depressingly trivialising thread, to which I shall contribute no further....
                        I am very close to leaving this demeaned and debased forum altogether.....
                        While they don't float my boat, I'm sure somebody out there must have laughed at the odd scene in at least one of the St Trinian's films.

                        I had hoped that the title of the thread would have made it clear that this is meant to be just a bit of fun inspired by the long-running BBC Radio 4 programme the name of which I've adapted.

                        I could hammer the point home in the case of Sibelius 5th, but then I thort - better not, eh?
                        Last edited by Leinster Lass; 30-12-20, 13:43.

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                        • jayne lee wilson
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                          • Jul 2011
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by rathfarnhamgirl View Post
                          While they don't float my boat, I'm sure somebody out there must have laughed at the odd scene in at least one of the St Trinian's films.

                          I had hoped that the title of the thread would have made it clear that this is meant to be just a bit of fun inspired by the long-running BBC Radio 4 programme the name of which I've adapted.
                          OK - so try a little harder to match name to music, and for God's sake rath (and others) - leave poor Bruckner alone at last...(don't worry - I'll give him all the love he needs....)....

                          OK! Off to the woods now....

                          Peace be with you Liz...
                          Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 30-12-20, 14:15.

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                          • Leinster Lass
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            OK - so try a little harder to match name to music, and for God's sake rath - leave poor Bruckner alone at last...(don't worry - I'll give him all the love he needs....)....OK! Off to the country now....

                            Peace be with you Liz...
                            It wasn't me wot introduced Bruckner into this thread - honest - it's just that he seems to get everywhere.

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                            • Bert
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                              • Apr 2020
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                              #15
                              Bruckner 3 - "The Editional"

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