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  • cloughie
    Full Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 22242

    Preferences for CDs, Downloading or Streaming

    It would be interesting to know what the balance is of those on the forum whose preferences are for cd over download and streaming.

    Alps, I posed this question on the Brahms Piano Quintet BaL thread. Would it be possible to transfer the appropriate responses to this new thread?
  • Joseph K
    Banned
    • Oct 2017
    • 7765

    #2
    CDs. Though my CD player is slightly irritating in that it takes what I'd consider to be a while to load a disk up. I am not sure if youtube is considered streaming, but I admit to using it quite a lot, even for records I already have.

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    • jayne lee wilson
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 10711

      #3
      ...as I said across the Brahmsian way........

      ....long story short chez moi, once streaming was available at CD/hires quality my downloading (which goes back to 2011, what an adventure it seemed back then, an hour to download an hour of 24/96...) quickly fell away. I do still buy some CD/SACDs, if I really ​love it. Often 2ndhand.

      Streaming as such began with the Berlin DCH in 2009-10 (you could get 320 aac live then), and Radio 3 aac 192 in 2009, then the so-miscalled HDs at 320 in 2010).

      But for financial reasons I'm sticking to streaming just now (or trying to... everyone here knows what I mean...). Qobuz/Audirvana is great value. Hard to live without really. My personal radio station, music player, new release alert, domestic ambience, all-in-one....
      I use youtube via firestick via TV sometimes too for something other than silence, birds, cats, wind in the trees, rain upon the windowpane, or Radio 4 FM or Classic FM in the kitchen.

      Sonic differences/SQ rankings with the same recording on different media can be very interesting, and I still have a deep attachment to the machinery & ritual involved in physical disc replay, but I guess that's another story.....(in the bedroom its FM or CD)...
      Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 02-10-20, 18:53.

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      • Richard Barrett
        Guest
        • Jan 2016
        • 6259

        #4
        Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
        once streaming was available at CD/hires quality my downloading quickly fell away
        Same here. Except for all the stuff on small independent Bandcamp labels which obviously doesn't appear on Qobuz.

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25255

          #5
          CD is still my gold standard.
          Really like and use Apple Music a lot, but once I really like something, I like to own the object.

          Only download bargains, really, or if there is no alternative.

          In a perfect world I would get a really good turntable system and buy classic Rock ( ones I missed first time) and Jazz albums , but can’t justify the expense. In that world there would be a quality reel to reel as well, with lots of 60s avant garde stuff lying around........Somewhere in the Tuscan hills.......and maybe a quad system........
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • LMcD
            Full Member
            • Sep 2017
            • 8870

            #6
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            CD is still my gold standard.
            Really like and use Apple Music a lot, but once I really like something, I like to own the object.

            Only download bargains, really, or if there is no alternative.

            In a perfect world I would get a really good turntable system and buy classic Rock ( ones I missed first time) and Jazz albums , but can’t justify the expense. In that world there would be a quality reel to reel as well, with lots of 60s avant garde stuff lying around........Somewhere in the Tuscan hills.......and maybe a quad system........
            CDs - especially at the prices I pay for them! (Having first dibs as a charity shop volunteer helps).

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #7
              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              CD is still my gold standard.
              Really like and use Apple Music a lot, but once I really like something, I like to own the object.

              Only download bargains, really, or if there is no alternative.

              In a perfect world I would get a really good turntable system and buy classic Rock ( ones I missed first time) and Jazz albums , but can’t justify the expense. In that world there would be a quality reel to reel as well, with lots of 60s avant garde stuff lying around........Somewhere in the Tuscan hills.......and maybe a quad system........
              Well, if you feel committed to the inherent distortions of the vinyl system . . . . As to reel-to-reel, if I want to get my Tandberg or Akai serviced back to usability, it would cost more than 10 times what I paid for each of them, new. As for Apple Music. forget it, horrible lossy data compression. Not even up to Radio 3 'HD Sound' audio quality.

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25255

                #8
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                Well, if you feel committed to the inherent distortions of the vinyl system . . . . As to reel-to-reel, if I want to get my Tandberg or Akai serviced back to usability, it would cost more than 10 times what I paid for each of them, new. As for Apple Music. forget it, horrible lossy data compression. Not even up to Radio 3 'HD Sound' audio quality.
                But I don’t listen to Apple Music for perfect, uncompressed sound. I use it for accessibilty and convenience, as part of my “busy active lifestyle.....”

                Nothing wrong with a bit of distortion anyway........
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #9
                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  But I don’t listen to Apple Music for perfect, uncompressed sound. I use it for accessibilty and convenience, as part of my “busy active lifestyle.....”

                  Nothing wrong with a bit of distortion anyway........
                  Sure, but to opt for it?

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25255

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Sure, but to opt for it?
                    Part of the mix is all..... in a perfect world, where there might be CD quality alternatives for the LPs.
                    And in any case,playing a vinyl album is a different experience. It may involve sacrificing some sound quality, but can be a more active experience, for instance, replicating the conditions for which the record was put together.
                    I mean, who gets up to pause a CD, make a cup of tea, and then listen to the next 22 minutes of music........

                    Plus you get a lovely big sleeve.. Possibly with notes or lyrics you can actually read, and a funny message in the run off.....no “ Porky Prime Cuts” these days....
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      #11
                      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                      But I don’t listen to Apple Music for perfect, uncompressed sound. I use it for accessibilty and convenience, as part of my “busy active lifestyle.....”

                      Nothing wrong with a bit of distortion anyway........
                      ​He's got a fuzzbox and he's gonna use it....

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        #12
                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        . . . I mean, who gets up to pause a CD, make a cup of tea, and then listen to the next 22 minutes of music........
                        I do. Quite often, and with downloads and streaming, too.

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                        • Braunschlag
                          Full Member
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 487

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                          CDs.
                          I am not sure if youtube is considered streaming, but I admit to using it quite a lot, even for records I already have.
                          Don’t blush JK - it’s my frequent go to these days. It’s a surprise how soon new releases turn up there and it’s a handy way of doing a test run to see if it is worth investing in a download elsewhere (new Schmidt/Jarvi Symphonies are already there, for instance). Saved me a few bob on the Wilson/Respighi which I thought was nothing particularly special ( those pieces almost play themselves regardless). At 192kbps it’s quite satisfactory for a first audition. It’s handy for various live performances too - there’s a fine Walton 1 from 1970 with Previn and the LSO, someone must have a treasure trove of old FM broadcasts.

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                          • Joseph K
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 7765

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Braunschlag View Post
                            Don’t blush JK - it’s my frequent go to these days. It’s a surprise how soon new releases turn up there and it’s a handy way of doing a test run to see if it is worth investing in a download elsewhere (new Schmidt/Jarvi Symphonies are already there, for instance). Saved me a few bob on the Wilson/Respighi which I thought was nothing particularly special ( those pieces almost play themselves regardless). At 192kbps it’s quite satisfactory for a first audition. It’s handy for various live performances too - there’s a fine Walton 1 from 1970 with Previn and the LSO, someone must have a treasure trove of old FM broadcasts.

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                            • LMcD
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8870

                              #15
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              Part of the mix is all..... in a perfect world, where there might be CD quality alternatives for the LPs.
                              And in any case,playing a vinyl album is a different experience. It may involve sacrificing some sound quality, but can be a more active experience, for instance, replicating the conditions for which the record was put together.
                              I mean, who gets up to pause a CD, make a cup of tea, and then listen to the next 22 minutes of music........

                              Plus you get a lovely big sleeve.. Possibly with notes or lyrics you can actually read, and a funny message in the run off.....no “ Porky Prime Cuts” these days....
                              I do.

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