The wicketkeeper debate has been going for a long time hasn't it? Several good 'keepers dropped (or playing limited Tests) over the years because of a perceived lack of batting skill: Bob Taylor (displaced by Knott), Bruce French (other examples I am sure). Often the real problem was the fragility of England's batting: it's not often that a wicket-keeper batsman is going to save you from a brittle top order collapse. That said, Alec Stewart made a fair few runs and became a good keeper. Gilchrist was, in my view, an exception. Perhaps he, and Dhoni, skewed things away from keeping skill. I hear that Pant is not as good a keeper as Saha, but hard to drop him after his last innings. Ultimately, if your keeper drops someone like Kohli who then makes a hundred and fifty, that is going to be very hard to make up.
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Originally posted by Historian View PostThe wicketkeeper debate has been going for a long time hasn't it? Several good 'keepers dropped (or playing limited Tests) over the years because of a perceived lack of batting skill: Bob Taylor (displaced by Knott), Bruce French (other examples I am sure). Often the real problem was the fragility of England's batting: it's not often that a wicket-keeper batsman is going to save you from a brittle top order collapse. That said, Alec Stewart made a fair few runs and became a good keeper. Gilchrist was, in my view, an exception. Perhaps he, and Dhoni, skewed things away from keeping skill. I hear that Pant is not as good a keeper as Saha, but hard to drop him after his last innings. Ultimately, if your keeper drops someone like Kohli who then makes a hundred and fifty, that is going to be very hard to make up.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostJimmy Binks was the best keeper in the land but Jim Parks got the call for his batting. The irony was that Binks was qutie a good bat, but the Yorkshire batting line-up at the time meant he rarely needed to do much with the bat!
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostI seem to remember he did a tour, possibly in the Indian sub-continent.
India indeed cloughers - Binks made his Test debut in the Second Test against India as wicketkeeper although
Parks was in the side and in the second innings - a hard slog to save the match - he opened with Brian Bolus and made 55 in 210 minutes .... we got the draw Bapu Nadkarni bowled 10 successive maidens and finished with 14-11-3-0 ..... !!!!!
26/01/1964 .........
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Originally posted by antongould View PostIndia indeed cloughers - Binks made his Test debut in the Second Test against India as wicketkeeper although
Parks was in the side and in the second innings - a hard slog to save the match - he opened with Brian Bolus and made 55 in 210 minutes .... we got the draw Bapu Nadkarni bowled 10 successive maidens and finished with 14-11-3-0 ..... !!!!!
26/01/1964 .........bong ching
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Originally posted by antongould View PostYou want wickets this is the place to be .........
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I'm not sure why bother with cricket these days. First one side gives all the advantages to the other, then next time around trounces them, only to chuck it all away on the next day. That only one batsman in a side can face up to a spinner says all that needs saying about training standards and today's calibre of intake.
I just hate the associated triumphalism of it all, and have long felt that those catching the batsman out who then toss the ball high into the air should automatically forfeit the catch.
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Interesting comments from Simon Hughes on TV just now. The extreme number of wickets falling was not only down to spin with 18 of the 30 wickets being lbw or bowled. He thought batsmen wre confused because the varnish on the pink ball was causing it to skid through, so not taking spin and coming though faster than expected.
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