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  • eighthobstruction
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 6432

    ........onward !!
    bong ching

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8402

      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

      The way I would tend to look at it, is that these are effects. Calling them" side" effects can be a bit disingenuous really. We take drugs, and they affect our bodies, and sometimes do helpful things to the bit that needs attention. But sometimes other things happen.
      Like you , I avoid drugs as far as is sensible. Too often a medical short cut I'm afraid. And testing regimes and the way results are published need to be questioned much more closely, IMO.

      Hope it has cleared up FF.
      Compression socks limit daytime swelling.

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      • oddoneout
        Full Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 9141

        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

        The way I would tend to look at it, is that these are effects. Calling them" side" effects can be a bit disingenuous really. We take drugs, and they affect our bodies, and sometimes do helpful things to the bit that needs attention. But sometimes other things happen.
        Like you , I avoid drugs as far as is sensible. Too often a medical short cut I'm afraid. And testing regimes and the way results are published need to be questioned much more closely, IMO.

        Hope it has cleared up FF.
        They are effects, but it is useful to separate out the effects which are the intended aim of taking the drug(improving a situation hopefully), and those that happen in addition to that main effect, which may be such as to make continuing with the drug impossible, however desirable its intended purpose. I faced this with osteoporosis drugs; they may have been improving bone density but the side effects made normal life difficult to impossible and in one case were potentially dangerous.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37589

          Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
          ........onward !!
          "Your blood pressure is rather high right now", the doctor told me, "But that is quite common while people are visiting a doctor, so I shouldn't worry"!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30235

            Originally posted by LMcD View Post

            Compression socks limit daytime swelling.
            I 'ated them. The right(-hand) one (open-toed) slipped up my foot and lodged uncomfortably round my ankle. The left one was hard to tug on and hurt my leg. I cast them off and decided on alternative action.

            It's quite time-consuming ensuring that there's no build-up during the day, but it's working. BP unknown but I feel fine - especially after morning gym (15 mins on the bike, 15 mins on the rower and 15 mins on the TreadClimber).
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • eighthobstruction
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6432

              Originally posted by french frank View Post

              I 'ated them. The right(-hand) one (open-toed) slipped up my foot and lodged uncomfortably round my ankle. The left one was hard to tug on and hurt my leg. I cast them off and decided on alternative action.

              It's quite time-consuming ensuring that there's no build-up during the day, but it's working. BP unknown but I feel fine - especially after morning gym (15 mins on the bike, 15 mins on the rower and 15 mins on the TreadClimber).
              ....and do you have your own [sic] personal shamer....cough ahem....trainer...
              bong ching

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30235

                Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post

                ....and do you have your own [sic] personal shamer....cough ahem....trainer...
                No. I creep in in my ragged joggers and sloppy Primark T-shirt alongside those gleaming, lycra-clad lovelies and everyone pretends I'm not there
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25193

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post

                  No. I creep in in my ragged joggers and sloppy Primark T-shirt alongside those gleaming, lycra-clad lovelies and everyone pretends I'm not there
                  Well, having never been to one of those sort of gyms, I can’t comment about the folks who live there. But, you know , we are who we are. ( Nothing wrong with Primark of course. But do you not use the all-but-compulsory “ moisture- wicking “ sports tops? Or nylon as they used to be called )
                  And the ones who annoy me are the runners 10 + years my senior who beat my times by big margins , without any apparent effort

                  ( I was first over 60 to finish in a reasonable size trail run this year, and didn’t get a trophy . Everybody gets a trophy. Except in the Sparsholt 14 k it seems . I must go down to town and get one made )
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30235

                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    But do you not use the all-but-compulsory “ moisture- wicking “ sports tops?
                    No, I don't work up a moisture glow :-)

                    Here - have a trophy 🏆
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • teamsaint
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25193

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post

                      No, I don't work up a moisture glow :-)

                      Here - have a trophy 🏆
                      Interesting.
                      and thanks for the trophy. From that little place on Gloucester Road ?
                      I start pouring “ moisture glow.””dead on 3 k and don’t stop till I stop. All bit unseemly . But so it goes.
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Pulcinella
                        Host
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10884

                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post

                        Interesting.
                        and thanks for the trophy. From that little place on Gloucester Road ?
                        I start pouring “ moisture glow.””dead on 3 k and don’t stop till I stop. All bit unseemly . But so it goes.
                        No chance of mistaking you for Prince Andrew, then.

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                        • oliver sudden
                          Full Member
                          • Feb 2024
                          • 598

                          I started running seriously a decade and a half or so ago when I noticed that my weight was more than I wanted, I sweated too much, and I got out of breath going upstairs.

                          Eight marathons later my weight is the same or if anything a bit more, I still sweat buckets, and stairs are still just as much of a pain.

                          Wouldn’t go back though.

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                          • eighthobstruction
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6432

                            ....I don't work up a sweat - being passive aggressive....
                            bong ching

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25193

                              Originally posted by oliver sudden View Post
                              I started running seriously a decade and a half or so ago when I noticed that my weight was more than I wanted, I sweated too much, and I got out of breath going upstairs.

                              Eight marathons later my weight is the same or if anything a bit more, I still sweat buckets, and stairs are still just as much of a pain.

                              Wouldn’t go back though.

                              One forum member/ admin used to like to do parkrun, and be on his way home in the car for the start of Building a Library. Nowadays one could possibly do a marathon before BaL ,if one had the ability.
                              I don’t think i’ll ever do one. But who knows ? Just don’t have the time or, truth to tell, inclination for 3 hour training runs, though would love to have a cracknat one.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • oliver sudden
                                Full Member
                                • Feb 2024
                                • 598

                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                I don’t think i’ll ever do one. But who knows ? Just don’t have the time or, truth to tell, inclination for 3 hour training runs, though would love to have a cracknat one.
                                If I could get away with just three-hour training runs that would be quite impressive, but at my speed nowadays the longest training runs are closer to five!

                                One doesn’t _start_ with those of course. One builds up. If that makes it any easier to imagine?

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