At least Covid will presumably eventually go away and as national disasters go it does seem to have had a few salutary side-effects. Brexit is with us for the duration and has none that I can perceive.
How much worse can it get ...??
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....Oh good in September the person; David Frost, who is doing the negotiating is changing jobs....to do a job serious folk don't think he should do, or that he will do well; National Security Adviser....good timing, apparently we are sending the Elgin Marbles to take his place around the Negotiating table....bong ching
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostAt least Covid will presumably eventually go away and as national disasters go it does seem to have had a few salutary side-effects. Brexit is with us for the duration and has none that I can perceive.
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This article presents a sad indictment of the US and the UK - https://time.com/5861697/us-uk-faile...irus-response/
Ranked first and second some while back in terms of preparedness and ability to cope .... Something didn't work out well.
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostThis article presents a sad indictment of the US and the UK - https://time.com/5861697/us-uk-faile...irus-response/
Ranked first and second some while back in terms of preparedness and ability to cope .... Something didn't work out well.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostI've mentioned this elsewhere as I've long thought that the high ranking for flu pandemic preparedness, so loudly proclaimed, was nonsense in view of the results of the Cygnet exercise, but I am assuming that the ranking was the result of a tickbox exercise which did not involve verifying any of the boxes ticked. In theory, and by ignoring the test runs, the results would indicate a high level of preparedness - but as has been tragically shown, theoretical PPE isn't effective...
Who needs experts eh, and who ignores them?
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostIn contrast, sometimes theory is very useful. If the theory re spreading of pandemics had been studied just a tad more carefully, and acted upon - the number of deaths might have been halved, or minimised further. Of course that's all theoretical/hypothetical now! We didn't have to do the experiment to discover that exponential rise means a doubling of problems every few days - and that there can be an integrative effect.
Who needs experts eh, and who ignores them?
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostIt's the structures that underly present-day problems that get ignored in most discussions, rather than the experts doing their best in their respective disciplines to deal with them & provide answers.
Politicians seem to have made things worse than need have been, on the whole, both during the current period and in the years leading up to this.
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostIn contrast, sometimes theory is very useful. If the theory re spreading of pandemics had been studied just a tad more carefully, and acted upon - the number of deaths might have been halved, or minimised further. Of course that's all theoretical/hypothetical now! We didn't have to do the experiment to discover that exponential rise means a doubling of problems every few days - and that there can be an integrative effect.
Who needs experts eh, and who ignores them?
By its very nature Covid-19 was always going to catch governments out but if the most basic preparations for dealing with a large-scale disease event are not in place then that's an extra layer of difficulty, and for that lack of preparedness to be a known and apparently deliberate position taken by government is, in my opinion, inexcusable. It certainly hasn't saved any money, which is all that seems to come into consideration.
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When you consider what the Trump Administration is doing to Dr. Anthony Fauci, things can get a whole lot worse. Much worse than a disagreement over whether masks should be mandatory. By the way, has it been decided?
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Originally posted by Padraig View PostWhen you consider what the Trump Administration is doing to Dr. Anthony Fauci, things can get a whole lot worse. Much worse than a disagreement over whether masks should be mandatory. By the way, has it been decided?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJh0i84LtBY&t=7s
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Originally posted by LMcD View PostYes -masks compulsory in shops and supermarkets from 24th July. Announced at the end of the 10.00 p.m. news on BBC 1.
Those of us not so thrilled at this news have 10 days to stock up, at least.
I suspect that the so called government have stats that tell them that more people will be tempted out to the shops by compulsory mask wearing than will be put off by it. If that is their reasoning, and I bet it is, it would be good if they were honest about it.
Ah, just spotted a problem there......I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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This possibly explains at least some of the inaction I referred to above(#55), but raises all sorts of questions itself, not least because, as I understand it, there had been a series of small scale simulations over the years preceding Cygnus which came to the same conclusions regarding preparedness.
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So, Labour under Starmer has proved it has no cojones by caving in to the blackmailers.
This has to join the Murdoch supremacy as the two most glaringly obvious examples of the moral bankruptsy of present-day political leadership in the western world, and the sycophants who keep its wheels and their spinners well oiled.
It's hard to imagine how much lower we can go. What a mockery to all those who fought to secure democracy, the vote, civil and human rights. I predict a mass exodus of Labour Party membership as people choose not to have their subs used for paying off the story tellers.
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