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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8638

    BBC (TV) News

    BBC News is starting to try my patience - not because of any perceived bias, but simply because of recent instances such as:

    - Ben Brown talking to a passenger who'd just landed at Brize Norton while the latter was still on the plane. It was very hard to understand what the passenger was saying, and the questions became increasingly dumb ....
    'Your wife is Chinese?
    'Yes'
    'But you flew out alone?'
    'Yes'
    'So you left your wife behind?'

    - The normally sure-footed Judith Moritz talking to a student at the University of York yesterday:
    'You're wearing a mask - why is that?'

    - An interview with Jacob Rees-Mogg during which all his answers could be heard but none of the questions.

    - A reporter who'd been sent to hang around Vancouver Island to collect tittle-tattle about the Sussexes, and who spent most of her slots explaining why she had nothing to report

    - A BBC reporter and a Vancouver-based reporter discussing TV coverage of the Royal rumpus. (BBC News has increasingly devoted air-time to the subject of BBC News).

    Dare I hope that the proposed cuts will improve things, e.g. by reducing the number of times London-based reporters are sent abroad to cover stories that they could cover from London or which were already being adequately covered by local (BBC or non-BBC) reporters?
  • Pulcinella
    Host
    • Feb 2014
    • 11062

    #2
    Originally posted by LMcD View Post
    Dare I hope that the proposed cuts will improve things, e.g. by reducing the number of times London-based reporters are sent abroad to cover stories that they could cover from London or which were already being adequately covered by local (BBC or non-BBC) reporters?
    We can all hope!
    Mind you, local newspaper coverage of the coronavirus story has not been great either, but the York Press is not that great a newspaper!
    Last edited by Pulcinella; 02-02-20, 14:10. Reason: Duplicate word deleted!

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    • pastoralguy
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7799

      #3
      Increasingly we find ourselves avoiding the BBC News coverage, (or the Harry and Meghan show as we started to call it). Channel 4 seems much tuned into the current news. Mind you, I still mute the volume when trump or johnson (sic) start spouting their rhetoric.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37814

        #4
        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
        Increasingly we find ourselves avoiding the BBC News coverage, (or the Harry and Meghan show as we started to call it). Channel 4 seems much tuned into the current news. Mind you, I still mute the volume when trump or johnson (sic) start spouting their rhetoric.
        Most of the past 3 days' worth of news and associated programmes, whichever channel and whether radio or TV, has been given over to Brexiters being proffered very uncritical, soft questioning. The only programmes digging deeper into consequences have been during nighttime radio broadcasts, eg on the World Service, when undoubted experts have been allowed to offer in-depth analyses uninterrupted which should have been the BBC's impartiality remit in action before the bloody referendum and during the subsequent interim period, rather than meekly following the tabloids' agenda (singular).

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9272

          #5
          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
          Dare I hope that the proposed cuts will improve things, e.g. by reducing the number of times London-based reporters are sent abroad to cover stories that they could cover from London or which were already being adequately covered by local (BBC or non-BBC) reporters?
          That would seem an obvious and sensible solution, so no, it's not likely to happen...
          The practice is one I have increasingly read and heard being criticised as irritating, unnecessary and, increasingly, undesirable in view of climate change concerns.

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37814

            #6
            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
            That would seem an obvious and sensible solution, so no, it's not likely to happen...


            The practice is one I have increasingly read and heard being criticised as irritating, unnecessary and, increasingly, undesirable in view of climate change concerns.

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            • ChrisBennell
              Full Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 171

              #7
              Interestingly my wife and I have also become increasingly frustrated at BBC news - particularly on BBC 1. We generally still watch the 6 pm news, and until recently also the 10 pm news. But we have recently found that the 10pm bulletin is often a repeat of what we already heard at 6. So we have recently started to switch over to ITN at 10pm. Good to find that this is really quite informative and well presented - a good antidote to the BBC.

              I would also have to say that Channel 4 News is far and away the best quality News programme on any channel. It's in-depth coverage of world-scope subjects is unrivalled in my opinion.

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              • Old Grumpy
                Full Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 3643

                #8
                I gave up on all TV news a while ago. The odd bulletin on Radio 3 and a perusal of good newspaper tell me all I need to know. I am pleased the BBC agree with me that the news team needs some pruning!

                OG

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                • Pianorak
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3128

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                  I gave up on all TV news a while ago.
                  Ditto - as well as R4 5PM and 10 pm news. BBC World Service and various newspaper headlines and news agencies provide all the news I require.
                  My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11062

                    #10
                    Same here.
                    Haven't watch a news bulletin on TV (apart from once between football programmes when we had a house guest) since the day after the referendum.

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                    • Bella Kemp
                      Full Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 481

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                      I gave up on all TV news a while ago. The odd bulletin on Radio 3 and a perusal of good newspaper tell me all I need to know. I am pleased the BBC agree with me that the news team needs some pruning!

                      OG
                      Same here. Radio 3 and a good newspaper is all one needs, although we do occasionally tune in to the BBC at Ten - alas, the other night the extended headlines (on Brexit) were accompanied by computerised muzak which was repulsive in that it turned world events into movie entertainment that needed a soundtrack. I am a great fan of the BBC and have no problems with the licence fee, but they should beware of becoming populist.

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                      • jayne lee wilson
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 10711

                        #12
                        Surprised to see no mention of Sky News or BBC News 24 here... still trusted and reliable services for me with plenty of depth and analysis in various slots, not least the excellent Press Previews late each evening, with a wide range of writers, journalists, broadcasters in discussion with the news presenter... they usually manage to entertain as well as enlighten and often have pretty lively debate! I enjoy the unlikely pairings striking sparks - e.g Stig Abell and Carole Malone...

                        I'd be sad if News 24 was lessened in any way, same goes for Newsnight whose presentation/analysis are generally up-to-speed....

                        BBC4's Beyond 100 Days is pretty good too, offering more depth on US and Global issues with some charismatic presentation - Katty Kay and Christian Fraser, who have a great onscreen chemistry....
                        Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 03-02-20, 03:02.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20572

                          #13
                          I’m afraid I’ve lost faith in BBC News, as it has become increasingly “the Laura Kuenssberg soapbox”.

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                          • LMcD
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8638

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            Surprised to see no mention of Sky News or BBC News 24 here... still trusted and reliable services for me with plenty of depth and analysis in various slots, not least the excellent Press Previews late each evening, with a wide range of writers, journalists, broadcasters in discussion with the news presenter... they usually manage to entertain as well as enlighten and often have pretty lively debate! I enjoy the unlikely pairings striking sparks - e.g Stig Abell and Carole Malone...

                            I'd be sad if News 24 was lessened in any way, same goes for Newsnight whose presentation/analysis are generally up-to-speed....

                            BBC4's Beyond 100 Days is pretty good too, offering more depth on US and Global issues with some charismatic presentation - Katty Kay and Christian Fraser, who have a great onscreen chemistry....
                            BBC News 24 became the BBC News Channel on April 21st 2008 and is, I'm afraid, frequently guilty of the sort of crassness mentioned in #1. On the rare occasions when I tune into Sky News I soon tire of waiting for the commercials to end. It looks as if Newsnight is going to be in the firing line in a big way - fewer filmed reports - when the cuts are implemented. My main sources of news are the 6 p.m. Radio 4 bulletin and the World Service. The red button, the proposed closure of which is up for review, and France 24 are good for headlines. I do watch The Papers on the News Channel, especially when the guests are Jo Phillips and Nigel Nelson - oh, and Mihir Bohse! (And Robert Fisk).

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                            • Pulcinella
                              Host
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 11062

                              #15
                              This (announced 28 Jan, coming soon) might be a good radio alternative:

                              National digital radio station launch planned for later this year Tim Levell named as Programme Director New podcast series, Stories of Our Times, to launch with Manveen Rana talkRADIO - delivering record audiences - continues as a national digital station   News UK has today unveiled plans for the launch of Times Radio, a new […]

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