The new Brexit 50p coin

[CGR]

By Region: Was Britain Right/Wrong to vote to leave EU (DKs removed)

Overall 46/54
London 34/66
South England 51/49
Midlands/Wales 54/46
North England 47/53
Scotland 27/73

That IS now.Also

"A few days before we leave the European Union, a large proportion of people think that we’ve made the wrong decision, a poll has found.
According to the latest YouGov Brexit tracker, 47% of people believe that Brexit is a mistake, while only 40% think it’s the right course for the country."

https://scramnews.com/days-before-br...ight-decision/

These odd polls have been turning up occasionally over the past couple of years. But the fact remains that the British people have now voted 4 times in 4 years for Brexit:
• June 2016 Referendum
• May 2017 General Election (85% of all MPs stood on a Brexit manifesto)
• May 2019 EU elections (Brexit Party win)
• December 2019 Gen Election.

And that covers 3 types of voting systems - winner takes all referendum, 2 first past the post Gen. Elections and the PR based Euro Parliament election.

[LMcD]

The country will be magically reunited at 2300 hours.
England will win the Euros and the Six Nations and top the medals table at the Olympics.
Kyle Edmund will win the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open.
HS2 will come in on time and under budget.
Hospital trolleys will become redundant 'cos there'll be a hospital bed for every patient.
The average size of school classes will plummet.
Trains will run in time and there will always be seats for everyone.
BBC News will stop wasting money.
I can hardly wait.

[Pulcinella]

The country will be magically reunited at 2300 hours.
England will win the Euros.
Kyle Edmond will win the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open.
HS2 will come in on time and under budget.
Hospital trolleys will become redundant 'cos there'll be a hospital bed for every patient.
The average size of school classes will plummet.
I can hardly wait.

And my solar panels will go into overload, as the sun will never stop shining.


What happened to all the trade deals that would be so easy to make (remember David Davis and IDS?)?
At least the Department of Brexit is closing down.

[gurnemanz]

Well, they'll be a good memento of a disastrous decision, I suppose.
Possibly the only thing in their favour.

Disastrous for the country and for me a source of shame and deep dismay. As a language teacher I devoted much effort over the decades in my professional and a personal life to improving relations with our nearest neighbours and it is painful to witness the anti-European glee exhibited by some fellow citizens. How embarrassing to watch Farage and his boorish friends yesterday in their primitive and provocative flagwaving display. The referendum has blighted our national life and I won't accept the propaganda coin if it is offered in change.

[pastoralguy]

The country will be magically reunited at 2300 hours.
England will win the Euros and the Six Nations and top the medals table at the Olympics.
Kyle Edmund will win the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open.
HS2 will come in on time and under budget.
Hospital trolleys will become redundant 'cos there'll be a hospital bed for every patient.
The average size of school classes will plummet.
Trains will run in time and there will always be seats for everyone.
BBC News will stop wasting money.
I can hardly wait.

And The Proms will feature George Lloyd's complete Orchestral output!

[ahinton]

We're opening a bottle of bubbly tomorrow evening. I hope to have the special 50p coins to give to the grandchildren, and the younger nieces and nephews.

Its a going to be a very proud day for many of us !!!

And a very sad one for many more - and a day whose events will be wilfully ignored by more still. Far too much is being made of it in any case beause the negotiatons that follow it might go on for years, for all that Mr Braggadoccio Boris would seek to persuade anyone gullible enough to believe him that they will end on 31 December this year, come what may, no ifs, no buts and all other similar clichés; moreover, the very fact that 1,317 days have elapsed between declaration of the "result" of the non-legally-binding advisory-only undemocratic public opinion poll that was the UK/EU referendum and tomorrow without anything having materially changed and that most relevant rules, regulations and legislation will remain in place for the next 335 days at the very least is hardly likely to inspire confidence in anyone. "The Brits will be back" noises are already being made and, when a retrospective assessment of whatever might happen during the remainder of this year becomes possible and the general consensus is that, on the whole UK will be considerably worse off, such noises might well begin to morph into something more constructive.

In the meantime, do enjoy your bubbly, for even though there's nothing whatsoever to celebrate, one doesn't need there to be in order to do this! Do ensure, however, that it is English bubbly and not any of that foreign muck of the champagne / méthose champenoise / prosecco / cava variety, otherwise the cork popping will risk defeating its own intended object.

[LMcD]

And a very sad one for many more - and a day whose events will be wilfully ignored by more still. Far too much is being made of it in any case beause the negotiatons that follow it might go on for years, for all that Mr Braggadoccio Boris would seek to persuade anyone gullible enough to believe him that they will end on 31 December this year, come what may, no ifs, no buts and all other similar clichés; moreover, the very fact that 1,317 days have elapsed between declaration of the "result" of the non-legally-binding advisory-only undemocratic public opinion poll that was the UK/EU referendum and tomorrow without anything having materially changed and that most relevant rules, regulations and legislation will remain in place for the next 335 days at the very least is hardly likely to inspire confidence in anyone. "The Brits will be back" noises are already being made and, when a retrospective assessment of whatever might happen during the remainder of this year becomes possible and the general consensus is that, on the whole UK will be considerably worse off, such noises might well begin to morph into something more constructive.

In the meantime, do enjoy your bubbly, for even though there's nothing whatsoever to celebrate, one doesn't need there to be in order to do this! Do ensure, however, that it is English bubbly and not any of that foreign muck of the champagne / méthose champenoise / prosecco / cava variety, otherwise the cork popping will risk defeating its own intended object.

'No ifs, no buts' .... sounds familiar

[vinteuil]

And The Proms will feature George Lloyd's complete Orchestral output!

... do we need yet another reason to find brexit depressing?


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[Edgy 2]

And The Proms will feature George Lloyd's complete Orchestral output!

I knew some good would come of brexit

[Felix the Gnat]

Yes, total disaster. Once the partying is over and the dust settles, we can watch with a 'told you so' superiority as the economy tanks, unemployment rises, inflation increases and our economy shrinks. Medicines and medical supplies will become difficult to obtain and worse of all European orchestras won't want to come here (just imagine what the Proms is gonna look like 5 years from now). We'll be held over a barrel on trade by bigger boys and screwed by Putin on everything else. (who would fear a tiny Britain without its EU partners?). All this while the rest of Europe prospers. Isolated, more dangerous and disliked. And worst of all, IT IS SELF-INFLICTED.

[LMcD]

Yes, total disaster. Once the partying is over and the dust settles, we can watch with a 'told you so' superiority as the economy tanks, unemployment rises, inflation increases and our economy shrinks. Medicines and medical supplies will become difficult to obtain and worse of all Europea orchestras won't want to come here (just imagine what the Proms is gonna look like 5 years from now). We'll be held over a barrel on trade by bigger boys and screwed by Putin on everything else. (who would fear a tiny Britain without its EU partners?). And worst of all, IT IS SELF-INFLICTED.

Yes, yes ... but the chances are that:
Once again, an English team will triumph in the FA Cup.
We should see and hear less of Nigel Farage.
The Tractor Boys will be promoted.

[Serial_Apologist]

No doubt our fisherman who will be shafted encore une fois as the 'negotiations' wear on. Perhaps a half-sunken trawler on the coin? Yippee aye ay, we've got our country back.

My prediction always was that the first thing that would follow the UK quitting the EU would be a fishing war, with the French insisting on accessing our waters, Briti8sh gunboats responding with live fire, and Macron (or whoever was Pres) unable to resist popular pressure for retaliation.

[Serial_Apologist]

And The Proms will feature George Lloyd's complete Orchestral output!

Dash it all - I just knew there was some reason for opposing Brexit!


That said, I was moved to tears by the other EU delegates singing "Auld Lang Syne" - particularly the fact that they appeared to know the words!

[Andy Freude]

Well, we all know, don't we that we joined the EEC, a trading bloc, and we never wanted it to develop into this EU Thing, with us having to do the same as those Europeans. Except, an interesting thing: I located the text of the 1971 Final Communiqué, just about 2 years before we'd even joined our trading bloc. It was signed by Georges Pompidou and Edward Heath, and some key quotes:

"In the rôle of Europe following the enlargement of the European Economic Community the President of the Republic and the British Prime Minister had a thorough exchange which showed that their views were very close. They expressed in particular their determination to contribute through the enlarged and deepened Community to increasing European co-operation and to the development of distinctively European policies, in the first instance principally in economic matters and progressively in other fields.

They also discussed the progress of the European Community towards economic and monetary union, and its implication for existing financial relationships. The Prime Minister reaffirmed the readiness of Britain to participate fully and in a European spirit in this development. These discussions produced a useful clarification of views which will provide a firm basis for the future."

Which blows the argument that we didn't want anything more than a trade agreement - unless anyone can find a statement that made it clear before the 1975 referendum that we were firmly reneging on these pledges. To me it sounds like Perfidious Albion. Again.

[Serial_Apologist]

Yes, total disaster. Once the partying is over and the dust settles, we can watch with a 'told you so' superiority as the economy tanks, unemployment rises, inflation increases and our economy shrinks. Medicines and medical supplies will become difficult to obtain and worse of all European orchestras won't want to come here (just imagine what the Proms is gonna look like 5 years from now). We'll be held over a barrel on trade by bigger boys and screwed by Putin on everything else. (who would fear a tiny Britain without its EU partners?). All this while the rest of Europe prospers. Isolated, more dangerous and disliked. And worst of all, IT IS SELF-INFLICTED.

We could of course always go completely self-sufficient on food essentials, as in WW2, by turning every public park, area of Green Belt and bit of rough ground into "the peoples' allotments".