The new Brexit 50p coin

[oddoneout]

It's outrageous triumphalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/25/heseltine-says-brexit-celebrations-rub-remainers-nose-in-it

[oddoneout]

Our Plan B is to save them up to buy something deliberately European: French cheese, a bottle of Barolo, or such like.

From Lidl or Aldi perhaps?

[kernelbogey]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ers-nose-in-it

[Pulcinella]

From Lidl or Aldi perhaps?

Stocked up on our cheap house red from Aldi yesterday: 24 bottles of Toro Loco.

[Andy Freude]

It's outrageous triumphalism.

By a minority of the nation: by the time you've excluded the Remainers, those resigned to leaving on the vague grounds that it has 'democratic validity' and those who don't care a toss one way or the other, grandiose plans to get poor old Big Ben out of his hospital bed to chime in the New Era, beaming coloured lights all over Downing Street and whatever other noisy celebrations that can be thought up seem 'childish and hysterical' on the part of the rump who for a hundred reasons and none have a visceral hatred of one of the most ambitious projects aimed at creating unity, peace and cooperation between peoples. So it has flaws as well as huge achievements. That hardly makes it unique.

I don't think one can expect empathy between the two sides, but sympathy wouldn't go amiss towards those who feel they have had something they valued deeply wrenched away from them. Even that, it appears, is too much to expect. Perhaps one shouldn't be surprised that those who turn their backs on the European ideals of peace and friendship are so aggressive.

[Serial_Apologist]

Stocked up on our cheap house red from Aldi yesterday: 24 bottles of Toro Loco.

That sounds a load of bull to me. And mad.

[Felix the Gnat]

By a minority of the nation: by the time you've excluded the Remainers, those resigned to leaving on the vague grounds that it has 'democratic validity' and those who don't care a toss one way or the other, grandiose plans to get poor old Big Ben out of his hospital bed to chime in the New Era, beaming coloured lights all over Downing Street and whatever other noisy celebrations that can be thought up seem 'childish and hysterical' on the part of the rump who for a hundred reasons and none have a visceral hatred of one of the most ambitious projects aimed at creating unity, peace and cooperation between peoples. So it has flaws as well as huge achievements. That hardly makes it unique.

I don't think one can expect empathy between the two sides, but sympathy wouldn't go amiss towards those who feel they have had something they valued deeply wrenched away from them. Even that, it appears, is too much to expect. Perhaps one shouldn't be surprised that those who turn their backs on the European ideals of peace and friendship are so aggressive.

It's worse than that. It's estimated that 7 million leave voters realise their mistake and would vote the other way if there was another referendum. 23 million plays 10 million (in favour of remain). Many of the 10 million are fairly reasonable, but misguided people. Some of the elderly 10 million have since died, so the ratio is even better for remain. The real problem is the aggressive minority who do not value European ideals like peace, friendship, cooperation and anti-racism and want to rub our noses in their 'victory' (pyrrhic?). As has already been said upthread, on 31 Jan 2020 our life will be torn away from us. There really is nothing to celebrate.

[Pulcinella]

That sounds a load of bull to me. And mad.

It is, but it won awards and hits the spot!

[kernelbogey]

It's estimated that 7 million leave voters realise their mistake and would vote the other way if there was another referendum. 23 million plays 10 million (in favour of remain). Many of the 10 million are fairly reasonable, but misguided people. Some of the elderly 10 million have since died, so the ratio is even better for remain. The real problem is the aggressive minority who do not value European ideals like peace, friendship, cooperation and anti-racism and want to rub our noses in their 'victory' (pyrrhic?). As has already been said upthread, on 31 Jan 2020 our life will be torn away from us. There really is nothing to celebrate.

Would be interested to know where these figures come from.
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Don't understand '23 million plays 10 million...'

But Andy and Felix ...

[Felix the Gnat]

Would be interested to know where these figures come from.
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Don't understand '23 million plays 10 million...'

But Andy and Felix ...

Basically, based on the 2016 referendum, if 7m leavers switch to remain in a referendum on EU membership, ceteris paribus, remain wins by 23m to 10m. I don't remember where the stats come from but I read it in all different places over the last 3 years. It doesn't matter where the stats come from anyway, because no-one is seriously challenging the stats, not even Brexiteers.

[kernelbogey]

Basically, based on the 2016 referendum, if 7m leavers switch to remain in a referendum on EU membership, ceteris paribus, remain wins by 23m to 10m. I don't remember where the stats come from but I read it in all different places over the last 3 years. It doesn't matter where the stats come from anyway, because no-one is seriously challenging the stats, not even Brexiteers.

Thanks.
An MP - don't remember who - said on the radio that sixth-formers she talks to in her constiuency are worried about their future. As well they might.

[LMcD]

Thanks.
An MP - don't remember who - said on the radio that sixth-formers she talks to in her constiuency are worried about their future. As well they might.

It might have been Julie Cooper (Lab, Burnley) but the worries in that particular case related to the financial viability of the school. Mind you, this could apply to any number of schools.

[burning dog]

"Not all the ‘over 65s’ are in favour of Brexit – Britain’s wartime generation are almost as pro-EU as millennials"

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2019/03/21/not-all-the-over-65s-are-in-favour-of-brexit-britains-wartime-generation-are-almost-as-pro-eu-as-millennials/

True of my older relatives, who were children during the war and started work in the true austerity of the late 40s. "Despite all I'ts faults" was the general consensus.

[Globaltruth]

Wondering what to spend those 50ps on?
....The t-towel, the fridge magnet...

https://shop.conservatives.com/products/got-brexit-done-magnet

https://shop.conservatives.com/collections/got-brexit-done/products/got-brexit-done-tea-towel

[Bryn]

https://actionnetwork.org/forms/sign-the-see-eu-again-soon-open-letter?source=facebookshare&fbclid=IwAR20y03oSjRyJYRD_N89N5WRa8QzkxqX4C81flZ8AJNq2AugV7kOc8jsQaI