An elderly Forumista writes ......

[Andy Freude]

I was actually referring to original recordings.

Ah, yes - the GAS has the advantage of having the original recordings, and for younger audiences these may be available on YouTube even if the records disappear. Benjamin Luxon's recording of parlour songs I knew of, and I think (I may be wrong) Robert Teare also recorded them. I certainly heard him singing "Parted" (choice on YouTube between Webster Booth, 1946, and Juan Diego Flórez, 2???). Perhaps you should be putting your old recordings on YouTube!

[Cockney Sparrow]

Is this like a plea for Victorian parlour songs or music hall, which lingered on with The Good Old Days (1953-1983)? No audience to speak of, no play?

You could catch repeats on Friday on BBC 4 as late as 2018, maybe even last year. The programmes were, IMHO, of "historical interest", even if the some of the music - parlour songs, etc - can be revived, in certain circumstances....

[cloughie]

Some great music is played on Clare Teal's programme but I find her presenting style off-putting; all that phoney chumminess, wanting to be yer mate!

Benny Green has never been replaced in the presenting role of this kind of music. Twas he who referred to ‘proper songs’, a term I still used to this date!

[Serial_Apologist]

Such is the rich melodic character of the best songs of the American Songbook that, given their adaptability, performed "straight" or re-harmonised, they will probably always be returned to by jazz musicians as making up readily available materials commonly used for one-off get-togethers in pubs and jam sessions. Hugh Wood even did this with "Sweet Lorraine" in the 12-note serial context of his piano concerto, composed for Joanna McGregor.

[StephenMcK]

Some great music is played on Clare Teal's programme but I find her presenting style off-putting; all that phoney chumminess, wanting to be yer mate!

A presenter who sings with great spontaneity, but nonetheless, whose brain never fully connects with her script.

[Bryn]

A presenter who sings with great spontaneity, but nonetheless, whose brain never fully connects with her script.

Which, I would remind you, she most likely wrote, as is the standard practice for Radio 3 presenters.

[antongould]

Benny Green has never been replaced in the presenting role of this kind of music. Twas he who referred to ‘proper songs’, a term I still used to this date!

Well said cloughers ..... I still miss him .... wonder if Auntie still has the tapes ...... ????

[jayne lee wilson]

Molleson, Alker, Teal....and others.... just getting a shade uncomfortable about how many female presenters get such flak around here...
Tom Service (to whom I've no objection at all) etc etc, but otherwise....?

I hope I'm wrong but....
anyway, Call of the Wild beckons....

[Andy Freude]

Molleson, Alker, Teal....and others.... just getting a shade uncomfortable about how many female presenters get such flak around here...

And Katie Derham. Don't know Molleson or Teal, but Alker (6 Music) and Derham (ClassicFM) are real stinkers largely because they're presenting classical music about which they know little or nothing. Square pegs in round holes, trying to compensate. Service is an over voluble gusher, but if you like that kind of thing … Penny Gore, Catriona Young - and Catherine Bott, Susan Sharp, Louise Fryer all departed these shores - are/were fine. Penny Gore was good on Morning on 3, the least demanding programme on Radio 3 until Breakfast and Essential Classics came along.

Sorry. Off topic. Back to the Great American Songbook to which like others I have an adverse reaction.

(I forgot one other, who I won't mention, unique in having an unjustifed know-it-all manner.)

[muzzer]

When stuck in traffic coming home on a summers Sunday night knackered after cricket I’m more than glad for Claire Teal’s cheeriness, as well as the music, I must say.

[Padraig]

Molleson, Alker, Teal....and others.... just getting a shade uncomfortable about how many female presenters get such flak around here...
Tom Service (to whom I've no objection at all) etc etc, but otherwise....?

I hope I'm wrong but....
anyway, Call of the Wild beckons....

I agree jlw - it's offensive to me too. I thought that it was agreed some time ago not to personalise complaints. That seems to have fallen by the wayside.

Andy Freude - you beat me to a response, but you simply reinforce what is objected to.

PS just noticed muzzer's positive post.

[DracoM]

Q: does the sound / talk style of a particular presenter get in the way of enjoying the way you interact with a radio station / programme?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Q: does the sound / talk style of a particular presenter get in the way of enjoying the way you interact with a radio station / programme?

It does for me - that's why I almost never listen to R3 Live these days, preferring the i-Player, which enables me to edit out all presentation.

[teamsaint]

Plenty of male presenters get flak hereabouts. A McG, Tom Service, Ron Shafferty, that bloke whose name I forget who does quite a lot of the concerts in the north .And plenty of the women get near universal acclaim , EG. Sarahs Walker and M-P, Penny Gore, Nicola Heywood Thomas etc.

It’s important to speak as we find. I find Elizabeth Alker’s morning show pretty terrible, but her concert presentation is fine. Kate Molleson is variable, but just on far too often. And so on.
Sometimes we find what we seek.

As regards personalising comments.....”.presenter led” is the choice of R3. The personalised response is absolutely inevitable, and justified as long as it is based on how they do the job. Or possibly how they got the job.

[Andy Freude]

Andy Freude - you beat me to a response, but you simply reinforce what is objected to..

Oh, well. I mentioned nine women presenters. Two I made no comment on since I don't listen to programmes they're on, five women I thought were good (noting that three of them had now left Radio 3). Two others are not good presenters of classical music for audiences who wish to hear knowledgeable insights since they don't have any. A tenth I did not name.

However, I have a vague feeling I ought to apologise for having a different opinion from yours, even though I think two out of a possible nine insults wasn't too shameful a score.