Fun and games with ballot papers

[Serial_Apologist]

I'd merely observe that this appears to have been written in 2016 - we've had plenty of opportunity to get to know him better since then.

And how! - all that wonderful unbiassed objective media coverage having taken place to redress the balance since 2016, I don't think!

Anyway, I don't wish to intrude on private grief any further, I'm off to do something else

Have fun.

[Serial_Apologist]

It really does not make sense to call Jeremy Corbyn a populist.

Not now, not then, not ever.

[burning dog]

Clearly throught his career Corbyn hasn't been a popluist.

If I accused Labour economic policy of that it should have been that they were too "Old Labour".

One example - Don't use the "N" word! Public Ownwership please. If the interviewer uses "Nationalisation" reply using another term . Suggesting a return to 70's structure state industries was unhelpful IMO. Benn and Foot had different ideas even then and they were promoted in the '74 elections.

Thoughh Corbyn got the worst ever press, it's not new. I guess it was less dog whistle, more full blast. "Jew with a treacherous commie dad" was the Bannon-esque canine attractor for the previous leader.

[MrGongGong]

It really does not make sense to call Jeremy Corbyn a populist.

Not now, not then, not ever.

"We won the argument" J Corbyn

(as wonderfully parodied on Dead Ringers)

[Richard Barrett]

I'd merely observe that this appears to have been written in 2016 - we've had plenty of opportunity to get to know him better since then.

Here's one from today. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9255551.html

As for Labour having won the arguments, they certainly did win some of them, otherwise the Johnson government wouldn't for example have changed their minds about bursaries for nurses, nor would they have promised (possibly emptily) to pour funding into the north of England. The silver lining is that some people's lives will improve. The massive cloud, on the other hand, is that many people's lives will do the opposite, and anyone who voted Tory voted for that.

[burning dog]

Here's one from today. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9255551.html

As for Labour having won the arguments, they certainly did win some of them, otherwise the Johnson government wouldn't for example have changed their minds about bursaries for nurses, nor would they have promised (possibly emptily) to pour funding into the north of England

I agree and I doubt they will dare contract out large chunks of the NHS out to a "GoogleHealth.com" or UberHealth.com" which was definitely a possibility. The Tories were never going to "privatise" it.

[burning dog]

https://www.facebook.com/SKWAWKBOX/videos/506967293497448/

Colud be a slip of the toungue but I doubt a member of a "lefty guadianista" type BBC would have made that slip

[MrGongGong]

Here's one from today. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9255551.html

As for Labour having won the arguments, they certainly did win some of them, otherwise the Johnson government wouldn't for example have changed their minds about bursaries for nurses, nor would they have promised (possibly emptily) to pour funding into the north of England. .

I don't trust them for one moment
Sure, everyone loves nurses
but to really improve the lives of those in places like Middlesborough etc
not a snowball in hells chance

[Joseph K]

Here's one from today. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9255551.html

As for Labour having won the arguments, they certainly did win some of them, otherwise the Johnson government wouldn't for example have changed their minds about bursaries for nurses, nor would they have promised (possibly emptily) to pour funding into the north of England. The silver lining is that some people's lives will improve. The massive cloud, on the other hand, is that many people's lives will do the opposite, and anyone who voted Tory voted for that.

Here's something from earlier this year, on press freedom:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/press-freedom-index-uk-ranking-reporters-without-borders-us-italy-a8875771.html?fbclid=IwAR3DjJfK5VHyGyUeD3w7-ZV1cqvM6DH5k2nVxBdBqg5-7IPI-HEKGquQjTM

Interesting that those countries with the highest press freedom have among the lowest rate of child poverty.

[LMcD]

I don't trust them for one moment
Sure, everyone loves nurses
but to really improve the lives of those in places like Middlesborough etc
not a snowball in hells chance

(A pedant writes: Middlesbrough if you're thinking of the Middlesbrough I think you're thinking of)

[MrGongGong]

(A pedant writes: Middlesbrough if you're thinking of the Middlesbrough I think you're thinking of)

sorry

[cloughie]

sorry

Dial M

[MrGongGong]

Dial M

for Mordor ?

[CGR]

[Richard Barrett]

Very apposite, the Iliad being a fable on the destructive power of hubris.