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  • gradus
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5633

    Originally posted by CGR View Post
    One hears about his classical education and it sounds mighty impressive in action.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by gradus View Post
      One hears about his classical education and it sounds mighty impressive in action.
      He is still a complete dishonest lying turd
      i'm not taken in by it

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      • jayne lee wilson
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        Originally posted by gradus View Post
        One hears about his classical education and it sounds mighty impressive in action.
        Like the prime minister, I studied Latin and Greek. His references are pure show-offery in the service of brand Boris, says Guardian chief culture writer Charlotte Higgins

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        • Andy Freude

          He probably took part in one of those schools Classical recitation competitions, and what one learns thoroughly at age 14 one tends to remember. I learned a chunk from Caesar's Gallic Wars (prose rather than verse) and still remember it - the most dramatic, arm-waving bit being, "Desilite," <stretches out arm, pointing down slightly> inquit, "milites, nisi vultis aquilam hostibus prodere. Ego certe (beats chest) meum reipublicae atque imperatori officium praestitero." Hoc cum magna voce <raises voice> dixisset … " et cetera … being the speech of the Roman standard-bearer doing his "once more into the breach, dear friends, once more …" bit. I also recited Lafontaine's Laboureur et ses enfants which I could probably still remember.

          Thing about B. Johnson is that he never stops acting, putting on a humorous performance to entertain his doting public. Basically, he went to Eton and learnt Latin (sorry Greek).

          One thing I did quite envy old H. Macmillan for was that he often read Latin poetry for pleasure. That's a cut above rote learning and I'd love to be able to do that (I couldn't understand what BJ was saying - sounded like Greek to me)

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          • Joseph K
            Banned
            • Oct 2017
            • 7765

            I can recite some of my own poems... plus a bit of Shakespeare and a few lines of German poetry.

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            • LMcD
              Full Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 8717

              Originally posted by Andy Freude View Post
              He probably took part in one of those schools Classical recitation competitions, and what one learns thoroughly at age 14 one tends to remember. I learned a chunk from Caesar's Gallic Wars (prose rather than verse) and still remember it - the most dramatic, arm-waving bit being, "Desilite," <stretches out arm, pointing down slightly> inquit, "milites, nisi vultis aquilam hostibus prodere. Ego certe (beats chest) meum reipublicae atque imperatori officium praestitero." Hoc cum magna voce <raises voice> dixisset … " et cetera … being the speech of the Roman standard-bearer doing his "once more into the breach, dear friends, once more …" bit. I also recited Lafontaine's Laboureur et ses enfants which I could probably still remember.

              Thing about B. Johnson is that he never stops acting, putting on a humorous performance to entertain his doting public. Basically, he went to Eton and learnt Latin (sorry Greek).

              One thing I did quite envy old H. Macmillan for was that he often read Latin poetry for pleasure. That's a cut above rote learning and I'd love to be able to do that (I couldn't understand what BJ was saying - sounded like Greek to me)
              'His rebus gestis Ceasar in Gallum venit ... Gallum in tres partes divisum est' (or something like that )

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12979

                Originally posted by Accidental
                Caesar adsum jam forte. Brutus aderat.
                Caesar sic in omnibus, Brutus sic inat.

                [ ... . According to Nigel Molesworth (1953), 'all latin masters hav one joke' and that's it. Molesworth also notes that 'a good roare of larffter will cut the leson by two minits six seconds or half a gender rhyme' ]

                And talking of omnibi - do we remember :

                "What is that that roareth thus?
                Can it be a motor bus?
                Yes, the smell and hideous hum
                Indicat motorem bum.
                Implet in the Corn and High
                Terror me motoris bi.
                Bo motori clamitabo
                Ne motore caedar a bo.
                Dative be or ablative,
                So thou only let us live.
                Whither shall thy victims flee?
                Spare us, spare us, motor be!
                Thus I sang, and still anigh
                Came in hordes motores bi
                Et complebant omne forum
                Copia motorum borum.
                How shall others live like us,
                Cincti bis motoribus?
                Domine, defende nos
                Contra hos motores bos!"

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                • Richard Barrett
                  Guest
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 6259

                  Well, I went to a comprehensive and much later on taught myself ancient Greek so I can't say I'm particularly impressed by a classically educated toff spouting it (with a ridiculous accent be it said).

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                  • oddoneout
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 9320

                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    He is still a complete dishonest lying turd
                    i'm not taken in by it
                    My sentiments too, although I might have expressed it slightly differently. I would also prefer that he directs his brain cells to the job he's supposed to be doing - although that assumes he has enough available, and that he has any idea of what needs doing.

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18052

                      Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                      Well, I went to a comprehensive and much later on taught myself ancient Greek so I can't say I'm particularly impressed by a classically educated toff spouting it (with a ridiculous accent be it said).
                      ἀποθνήσκω is one word I remember - plus of course λυω

                      I can't say I'm impressed either, or with the thought processes which might reside or even escape from said brain (not yours ... ). I would be delighted to be wrong - but I fear I'm not. Time - probably far too much - will tell.

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                      • Dave2002
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 18052

                        Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                        I can recite some of my own poems... plus a bit of Shakespeare and a few lines of German poetry.
                        I know some with AABBA rhyming, which are in anapesic meter.

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                        • Sir Velo
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3269

                          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                          I know some with AABBA rhyming, which are in anapesic meter.
                          What's that - Dancing Queen, Mama Mia..?

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                          • CGR
                            Full Member
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 370

                            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                            What's that - Dancing Queen, Mama Mia..?
                            The Winner Takes It All

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                            • cloughie
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 22215

                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              He is still a complete dishonest lying turd
                              i'm not taken in by it
                              Few principles and few policies. Watch out for the NDB, UI and ISc coming our way!

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12979

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                Watch out for the NDB, UI and ISc coming our way!
                                ... sorry - what are these?

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