Fun and games with ballot papers

[oddoneout]

Interesting choice of language!
I thought that we were ruled by the queen, and we don't (yet) get to vote for royalty.

Indeed.

[oddoneout]

This had me confused at first.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/11/boris-johnson-hides-in-fridge-to-avoid-piers-morgan-interview

but a quick search revealed that it wasn't that Jonathan Swain...

[Dave2002]

I recently finished reading 'Postcards to Europe', a collection of writings about what Europe means to various people. It included a piece by Jacob Rees-Mogg called "What the Wise Men promised", from which this is taken.
"Even the different voting systems in the UK and on the Continent change the relationship between the people and the rulers. Here the constituency system combined with first past the post creates a direct link and may lead to dramatic change. In proportional systems it is much harder to move away from the status quo, there is always some continuity in government regardless of what the voters have to say and those at the top of the list are secure in their positions"

That's quite interesting. The situation in the USA is similar - even though the country is different. Is continuity better than sudden rapid shifts - sometimes based on a knife-edge outcome - and perhaps not even a reliable one?

[Conchis]

That's quite interesting. The situation in the USA is similar - even though the country is different. Is continuity better than sudden rapid shifts - sometimes based on a knife-edge outcome - and perhaps not even a reliable one?

Both have their frustrations but I think the advantage of PR is that 'everybody gets to keep something'. With FPTP, it's a case of winner take all, loser gets nothing. And it also means a small margin of victory can sign a country up to very radical change, which not every one would have endorsed - as Britain will discover during the course of the next ten or so years.

[teamsaint]

Anyway, who doesn’t love the muppets?


Good piece by John McDonnell in the Graun today. Just for a moment I found myself in a world where he was our Chancellor, and johnson and his ragbag of oddities were just a fading memory..........

Anyway, its Vote Vote Vote for ....

[Padraig]

Anyway, its Vote Vote Vote for ....

...a miracle.

In our case 2 miracles.

Best of British luck ts.

[LMcD]

Anyway, who doesn’t love the muppets?


Good piece by John McDonnell in the Graun today. Just for a moment I found myself in a world where he was our Chancellor, and johnson and his ragbag of oddities were just a fading memory..........

Anyway, its Vote Vote Vote for ....

Nigel Barton

[teamsaint]

Nigel Barton

Quite......but , you know, the N word........

[muzzer]

Vote early and vote often!

[Bryn]

Nigel Barton

One of the finest stand-ups in the history of BBC television.

[teamsaint]

On the basis that nobody I have voted for has ever been elected, I decided to support the tory candidate...........

Definitely worth a punt.

[Dave2002]

On the basis that nobody I have voted for has ever been elected, I decided to support the tory candidate...........

Definitely worth a punt.

Do let us know how it goes - if you dare!

[teamsaint]

Do let us know how it goes - if you dare!

Dave, they have a pig and a blue rosette all ready........

Only one thing can happen.....

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Dave, they have a pig and a blue rosette all ready........
Only one thing can happen.....

<potentially libellous David Cameron quip ruthlessly self-modded>

[teamsaint]

<potentially libellous David Cameron quip ruthlessly self-modded>

Lucky I read that when I did.
10 minutes later it would have ruined my dinner.

( Cauliflower Cheese and chips. Lea and Perrins essential to go with ).