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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    If he thinks he's going to sail home he should maybe take some lessons from Greta Thunberg on how to reach your intended destination.
    Can one sail to other planets ?

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    • oddoneout
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      • Nov 2015
      • 9150

      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      Can one sail to other planets ?

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          That's the way to do it
          But I don't want the hoot planet contaminated.........

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          • ahinton
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            • Nov 2010
            • 16122

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            Can one sail to other planets ?
            Arnold SchΓΆnberg would surely have known...

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37617

              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
              Arnold SchΓΆnberg would surely have known...
              Ah yes, because he's the heir from another planet.

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              • Dave2002
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                • Dec 2010
                • 18009

                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                Maybe
                But it doesn't really seem right that someone who has no stake in the country is allowed to potentially "represent" ?
                You might be being a bit hard there, though I don't know. If when I was living abroad I'd felt like standing, I might have been a bit upset if someone suggested that I didn't have a right to stand - and lose my deposit! I'm assuming that Mr Punchard is still a British citizen.

                A bit more about him here - https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...16-p53b6a.html

                Not quite the same, but it makes me wild that people in other countries are allowed to "invest" in plots of land in this country, and then influence planning policy in order to make a quick buck with developers.
                This, whether the local communities want the developments or not.
                Last edited by Dave2002; 06-12-19, 22:55.

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                • MrGongGong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                  You might be being a bit hard there, though I don't know. If when I was living abroad I'd felt like standing, I might have been a bit upset if someone suggested that I didn't have a right to stand - and lose my deposit! I'm assuming that Mr Punchard is still a British citizen.
                  .
                  So what ?
                  He doesn't live here
                  There are many folks from the rest of the EU who have made their lives here, paid tax, contributed to the country and have NO voice

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                  • LMcD
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                    • Sep 2017
                    • 8416

                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    So what ?
                    He doesn't live here
                    There are many folks from the rest of the EU who have made their lives here, paid tax, contributed to the country and have NO voice
                    There have been cases in recent years of local councillors who have moved abroad for all or part of the year but continued (or claimed to continue) to work on behalf of the people who elected them. I must admit I would be happy to attend a surgery if he or she used some of his or her allowance to fly me out to Majorca or wherever and put me up for a couple of nights in reasonable accommodation.
                    This is one example: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-31636846

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                    • MrGongGong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                      There have been cases in the last couple of years of local councillors who have moved abroad for all or part of the year but continued (or claimed to continue) to work on behalf of the people who elected them. I must admit I would be happy to attend a surgery if he or she used some of his or her allowance to fly me out to Majorca or wherever and put me up for a couple of nights in reasonable accommodation.
                      Time to stop this nonsense
                      Like I said, there are plenty of people who have made their lives here ,paid tax and contributed who have NO voice

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                      • Dave2002
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 18009

                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        So what ?
                        He doesn't live here

                        There are many folks from the rest of the EU who have made their lives here, paid tax, contributed to the country and have NO voice
                        It is not implausible that as a British citizen living abroad that he feels very strongly about some aspect of Britain, and is trying to make a difference. Very few people would do that - but I don't see that as completely reprehensible. It may depend on lots of factors ...

                        Also, the article I just linked to suggests that he does live here - though for how long?

                        Oddly there are Australians who are living in the UK, and who are allowed to vote - according to an article I've just read. Why they should be allowed to do that if people from the EU in similar circumstances are not allowed to I can't say.

                        I don't make the rules, even if I'd like to.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37617

                          Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                          It is not implausible that as a British citizen living abroad that he feels very strongly about some aspect of Britain, and is trying to make a difference. Very few people would do that - but I don't see that as completely reprehensible. It may depend on lots of factors ...

                          Also, the article I just linked to suggests that he does live here - though for how long?

                          Oddly there are Australians who are living in the UK, and who are allowed to vote - according to an article I've just read. Why they should be allowed to do that if people from the EU in similar circumstances are not allowed to I can't say.

                          I don't make the rules, even if I'd like to.
                          The point as I see it is the problem of insulation from consequences if you're not voting in the country that is to be affected by your vote.

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                          • Dave2002
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 18009

                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            The point as I see it is the problem of insulation from consequences if you're not voting in the country that is to be affected by your vote.
                            However, in the cases mentioned, the Australians who it seems can vote are actually living in the UK, and would be affected. On the other hand Non UK - EU citizens are probably not allowed to vote.

                            Regarding Mr Planchard I don't know whether he is eligible to vote, or if he will. It may be that he is eligigble to stand for elections, and if people do vote for him, and he continues to live in the UK and if he actually does fulfil the "wishes of the local electorate" (!!!) then there might not be a problem.

                            I guess nobody really expected this, and presumably the rules permit it. Assuming he does not get elected, will the rules be amended to prevent this kind of action in future? Maybe not.

                            If MPs don't perform there should be a recall option, though how that would be invoked I don't know. Does it work well, or at all, in other countries?

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                            • MrGongGong
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                              Regarding Mr Planchard
                              It's PUNCHard
                              and I hope someone does

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                It's PUNCHard
                                and I hope someone does
                                That's the way to do it.
                                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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