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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
    Unenclosed as long as you've eliminated grazing herbivores....
    I was only dealing, there, with the etymology of "forest". I am with you entirely, regarding grazing herbivores. An important issue is that of what tree species to plant if one intends to intervene in succession. A good friend used to farm a couple of miles west of the RSPB reserve to the west of Rhandirmwyn, Carmarthenshire. His own farm was quite small but he rented a large expanse of 'unimproved' rough hill pasture on which to graze his sheep. That land was owned by the Economic Forestry Group. Once they got round to planting it, he lost that foraging to a vast swathe of fast-growing conifers. That is not the ideal sort of tree-planting we need. A further spread of the oak woodland of the area would, I feel, have been far more advantageous in ecological terms.

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    • Andy Freude

      "Planting 2 billion trees in the next 20 years would be the equivalent of sowing 100 million a year, so Corbyn’s promise to plant more than that 10 years ahead of the target effectively doubles the requirement.

      That is the equivalent of three trees planted every second, day and night.

      While this sounds incredible, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility. One man in Northumberland who has launched a private woodland has planted more than 2 million trees in 12 years"

      Verdict

      The Labour plan is ambitious but not out of sync with expert thinking.



      Talking about what is physically possible, if one man can plant 2,000,000 in 20 years (he actually did it in 12 years), 1,000 men could plant 2,000,000,000. Or 10,000 men would take half the time (not everyone is a fanatic!).

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        Originally posted by Andy Freude View Post
        "Planting 2 billion trees in the next 20 years would be the equivalent of sowing 100 million a year, so Corbyn’s promise to plant more than that 10 years ahead of the target effectively doubles the requirement.

        That is the equivalent of three trees planted every second, day and night.

        While this sounds incredible, it is not beyond the bounds of possibility. One man in Northumberland who has launched a private woodland has planted more than 2 million trees in 12 years"

        Verdict

        The Labour plan is ambitious but not out of sync with expert thinking.



        Talking about what is physically possible, if one man can plant 2,000,000 in 20 years (he actually did it in 12 years), 1,000 men could plant 2,000,000,000. Or 10,000 men would take half the time (not everyone is a fanatic!).
        Brian Aldridge will be along in a minute to tell you otherwise .... mark my words

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        • Andy Freude

          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Brian Aldridge will be along in a minute to tell you otherwise .... mark my words
          He'd better write to the Guardian then! I know nothing.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            Brian Aldridge will be along in a minute to tell you otherwise .... mark my words
            He won't be around until Sunday morning at the earliest, and even then he'll just be repeating himself as a man on the Penny Hassett omnibus.

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            • Joseph K
              Banned
              • Oct 2017
              • 7765

              Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
              This is what India has achieved: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/india...b0fc06ace91e2a

              Yes, India is bigger than the UK, but it's more people, too...
              Then there's this - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-49151523

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9320

                [QUOTE=LMcD;765350]
                Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                A bit of light relief perhaps...
                From the Boy John's letters in Norfolk dialect to the Eastern Daily Press, commenting on the February 1950 general election.
                "Well, thas over (the election I mean), an sum on 'em ha got wot they want - an sum hearnt. We dint fare to ha' no time to think about walentines nor yit pancearkes. My hart, that finished up a rumin, dint it? All them wot woted put down a X, that ment a draw - an they werry nigh got it tew, nigher than wot they git them football coupons."
                This is the context
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_U...neral_election[/QUOTE
                As a proud son of the county concerned, may I just say that your transliteration (is that the right word?) of Norfolk as she is spoke is spot on - I read it out loud and it was, as Bernard Matthews used to say, 'bootiful'!
                I can't claim any credit for that, it was Sidney Grapes what did the hard work! I was lucky enough to find a copy of the second collection of letters in a charity shop, and it sits on the bookshelf beside my desk ready to provide a bit of perspective and humour when necessary, especially Aunt Agatha's Postscripts. This is one I like - and not entirely irrelevant I think. "It's good to change your mind now and again - it keeps it clean"

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                • greenilex
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1626

                  Any female tree-planters spring gracefully to mind?

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                  • Richard Tarleton

                    Originally posted by greenilex View Post
                    Any female tree-planters spring gracefully to mind?
                    In my experience it's an equal-opportunities, gender-neutral world in professional nature conservation, environmental and countryside management these days, if that's what you're asking

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by greenilex View Post
                      Any female tree-planters spring gracefully to mind?

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        I mentioned supply, and tree nurseries, above. A correspondent in today's Times reminds us of the biosecurity issues with tree planting. Of course all planted trees should be from native stock. Ash die-back disease comes from eastern Asia....

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                        • gradus
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5633

                          is the Woodland Trust still correct about 95% Ash lost? There was a recent story about Ash showing resistance more widely than expected - good news if it proves correct, indeed very little evidence of die-back of Ash on a friend's farm in Suffolk. Of course vigilance over bio-security remains top priority.

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                          • LMcD
                            Full Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 8717

                            Originally posted by gradus View Post
                            is the Woodland Trust still correct about 95% Ash lost? There was a recent story about Ash showing resistance more widely than expected - good news if it proves correct, indeed very little evidence of die-back of Ash on a friend's farm in Suffolk. Of course vigilance over bio-security remains top priority.
                            www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50420207 (also mentioned last week on BBC Look East)

                            If I may make a general point - one applicable to all parties and all pledges and policies: as long as politicians continue to promise not to increase taxes, the electorate will continue to vote for them and continue in the naive belief that everything - from policing, health and social care, defence and education to the planting of trees - can continue to be provided to a satisfactory level on the cheap.
                            Last edited by LMcD; 01-12-19, 06:50.

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              And some people STILL want this evil little sh*t to be PM ?



                              And this ?

                              The father of Jack Merritt, who died on Friday at London Bridge, writes that the attack has been used to reinforce the worldview his son fought against
                              Last edited by MrGongGong; 02-12-19, 18:21.

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                              • Anastasius
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 1860

                                And on the other side of the divide, this snivelling spineless little s*it would let them all out on the streets

                                JEREMY CORBYN said terrorists do "not necessarily" have to serve a full-sentence but insisted they should be monitored after their release in the aftermath of the London Bridge attack.
                                Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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