Fun and games with ballot papers

[LMcD]

[QUOTE=oddoneout;765341]A bit of light relief perhaps...
From the Boy John's letters in Norfolk dialect to the Eastern Daily Press, commenting on the February 1950 general election.
"Well, thas over (the election I mean), an sum on 'em ha got wot they want - an sum hearnt. We dint fare to ha' no time to think about walentines nor yit pancearkes. My hart, that finished up a rumin, dint it? All them wot woted put down a X, that ment a draw - an they werry nigh got it tew, nigher than wot they git them football coupons."
This is the context
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_U...neral_election[/QUOTE
As a proud son of the county concerned, may I just say that your transliteration (is that the right word?) of Norfolk as she is spoke is spot on - I read it out loud and it was, as Bernard Matthews used to say, 'bootiful'!

[Andy Freude]

Fact 1 - Jezza said that Labour will plant 2 billion trees by 2040.

Fact 2 - that is planting 200 trees....every minute...every hour...24 hours a day...every day for the next twenty years.

I don't think Jezza was undertaking to plant them on his own. How many men (non-gender specific) would be needed over a 20-year period, working a 48-week year for 40 hours a week, assuming they planted 8 trees per hour?

[Richard Tarleton]

I don't think Jezza was undertaking to plant them on his own. How many men (non-gender specific) would be needed over a 20-year period, working a 48-week year for 40 hours a week, assuming they planted 8 trees per hour?

Welcome Andy! In at the deep end.....

Don't forget preparation, aftercare, as in my #210 above. Transport to site (for remote locations), seasonality, weather (you can't plant trees all year, autumn/winter best)..... Really, string, how long, piece.

[Dave2002]

I don't think Jezza was undertaking to plant them on his own. How many men (non-gender specific) would be needed over a 20-year period, working a 48-week year for 40 hours a week, assuming they planted 8 trees per hour?

130,208 and 1/3 !!!!!

[Andy Freude]

Welcome Andy! In at the deep end.....

Don't forget preparation, aftercare, as in my #210 above. Transport to site (for remote locations), seasonality, weather (you can't plant trees all year, autumn/winter best)..... Really, string, how long, piece.

Hello, Richard. Thanks for the welcome. Yes, many variables, but don't think that 2 bn trees in 20 years is absolutely unachievable as was stated. If it were me I would also commandeer an army of green-minded volunteers. It could be quite fun.

[teamsaint]

My goodness...you really DO think he's the Messiah !

How you can deduce that from my post is beyond undestanding.

Anyway, I’m off out to hear some music, so you’ll have to play with the others while I’m gone.

[Richard Tarleton]

Hello, Richard. Thanks for the welcome. Yes, many variables, but don't think that 2 bn trees in 20 years is absolutely unachievable as was stated. If it were me I would also commandeer an army of green-minded volunteers. It could be quite fun.

...and, of course, supply of suitable species - tree nurseries...will they be able to keep up...

[Richard Tarleton]

Anyway, I’m off out to hear some music, so you’ll have to play with the others while I’m gone.

I'm off to the kitchen

[teamsaint]

I'm off to the kitchen

More chicken than Boris, RT ?

Interesting thoughts on the trees though, as usual.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Interesting thoughts on the trees though, as usual.

[Joseph K]

This is what India has achieved: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/india...b0fc06ace91e2a

Yes, India is bigger than the UK, but it's more people, too...

[gradus]

There are also a vast number of trees growing naturally in the wild from the seed of their parent without any help from Man. In gardens too, holly, sycamore, walnut, rowan, hawthorn and various evergreens all set seed in my garden, some of which survive to adulthood by being potted on and given away.

[Bryn]

There are also a vast number of trees growing naturally in the wild from the seed of their parent without any help from Man. In gardens too, holly, sycamore, walnut, rowan, hawthorn and various evergreens all set seed in my garden, some of which survive to adulthood by being potted on and given away.

Not to mention the myriad birches, principally the silver variety, which lead the 'natural' succession process of arboreal spread. Why not "forestation"? Because, strictly, forests do not need to have trees in them, they just have to be unenclosed 'countryside'.

[Richard Tarleton]

There are also a vast number of trees growing naturally in the wild from the seed of their parent without any help from Man. In gardens too, holly, sycamore, walnut, rowan, hawthorn and various evergreens all set seed in my garden, some of which survive to adulthood by being potted on and given away.

Very true. But (for example in the UK uplands, where there ought to be trees but aren't, which is what we're talking about here) you first have to exclude sheep. We're talking on a vast scale. I'm all for it, by the way - along with George Monbiot

[Richard Tarleton]

Not to mention the myriad birches, principally the silver variety, which lead the 'natural succession process of arboreal spread. Why not "forestation"? Because, strictly, forests do not need to have trees in them, they just have to be unenclosed 'countryside'.

Indeed - but unenclosed only as long as you've eliminated grazing herbivores....sheep.... In the wildwood, grazing herbivores (wild cattle, deer, rootling boar) very much part of the system. But it's vast numbers of non-native sheep that have done for the UK countryside. And here we get back to the NFU, who are in the upland sheep-farmer's corner....