Stop bashing Britain, BBC !

[LMcD]

At a time of national crisis I believe the BBC must be persuaded to desist from its 'Not Backing Britain' policy. The BBC SO has had far too many foreign chief conductors of late (Dorati, Boulez, Rozdhestvensky, Slatkin, Belohlavek and Oramo) and, to add insult to injury, the recommended recording of Elgar's 2nd symphony was by a German orchestra conducted by a man who's a citizizen of Argentina, Israel, Palestine and Spain.

[vinteuil]

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... and they plays lots of music by furriners. Lots!


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[Tony Halstead]

At a time of national crisis I believe the BBC must be persuaded to desist from its 'Not Backing Britain' policy. The BBC SO has had far too many foreign chief conductors of late (Dorati, Boulez, Rozdhestvensky, Slatkin, Belohlavek and Oramo) and, to add insult to injury, the recommended recording of Elgar's 2nd symphony was by a German orchestra conducted by a man who's a citizizen of Argentina, Israel, Palestine and Spain.

Presumably this post was made with tongue firmly in cheek?

[MrGongGong]

It's shocking IMV
I've argued with many folks who think the UK is a cultural Galapagos

[cloughie]

At a time of national crisis I believe the BBC must be persuaded to desist from its 'Not Backing Britain' policy. The BBC SO has had far too many foreign chief conductors of late (Dorati, Boulez, Rozdhestvensky, Slatkin, Belohlavek and Oramo) and, to add insult to injury, the recommended recording of Elgar's 2nd symphony was by a German orchestra conducted by a man who's a citizizen of Argentina, Israel, Palestine and Spain.

But most of the above mentioned have championed British composers - and Barenboim has become almost as good an Elgarian as Barbirolli and over the years the BBC regional orchestras have maintained a good standard with both British and overseas conductors. LMcD Your case is dismissed, you have the right to appeal if you wish!

[vinteuil]

... Barenboim has become almost as good an Elgarian as Barbirolli

... yep, it needs an eye-tie or an argie to cope with Elgar.

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[LMcD]

But most of the above mentioned have championed British composers - and Barenboim has become almost as good an Elgarian as Barbirolli and over the years the BBC regional orchestras have maintained a good standard with both British and overseas conductors. LMcD Your case is dismissed, you have the right to appeal if you wish!

Rejoinder

M'Lud :

The country's never going to get out of its present mess if we don't compromise. So … I suppose it would be OK to programme the occasional piece by some foreigner chap or chapess, as long as he or she came from one of the few countries we're still friends with, but I think the conductor of the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation's No. 1 orchestra should, as a rule, be BRITISH. One of very few exceptions would have been the late Andre Previn, who proved his love of this country by training to become a conductor of a London bus. And Bernard Haitink would be acceptable because, like most Dutch people, he speaks better English than many native Brits.

[oddoneout]

Rejoinder

M'Lud :

The country's never going to get out of its present mess if we don't compromise. So … I suppose it would be OK to programme the occasional piece by some foreigner chap or chapess, as long as he or she came from one of the few countries we're still friends with, but I think the conductor of the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation's No. 1 orchestra should, as a rule, be BRITISH. One of very few exceptions would have been the late Andre Previn, who proved his love of this country by training to become a conductor of a London bus. And Bernard Haitink would be acceptable because, like most Dutch people, he speaks better English than many native Brits.

And the Dutch ruled this country for a while.

[vinteuil]

And the Dutch ruled this country for a while.

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... good point!

And as since 1066 our monarchs have been variously Norman, French, Welsh, Scots, Dutch, and German - but never English - I suggest we only have composers from such nations. Down with the Russkies! No more Spaniards at the Proms!!

Did Magna Carta die in vain???


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[Nick Armstrong]

Good thread!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

The English started bashing the British in 442! An end to this foreign muck! Only Music by Scots and Welsh composers on the BBC, if you please!

[jayne lee wilson]

Rejoinder

M'Lud :

The country's never going to get out of its present mess if we don't compromise. So … I suppose it would be OK to programme the occasional piece by some foreigner chap or chapess, as long as he or she came from one of the few countries we're still friends with, but I think the conductor of the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation's No. 1 orchestra should, as a rule, be BRITISH. One of very few exceptions would have been the late Andre Previn, who proved his love of this country by training to become a conductor of a London bus. And Bernard Haitink would be acceptable because, like most Dutch people, he speaks better English than many native Brits.

OK -
1) Give us a list of possible candidates...
2) Perhaps first examining their lineage very closely.....

[vinteuil]

The English started bashing the British in 442! An end to this foreign muck! Only Music by Scots and Welsh composers on the BBC, if you please!

... these bludi Kelts, comin' over here and smashin' our beakers!

Let's hear it for the beaker folk, and down with these invaders!!

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/february/the-beaker-people-a-new-population-for-ancient-britain.html

A Wiltshire boy writes : Hey - what about the autochthonous lot - these new-fangled beakers ain't nuffink compared to what we had at Stonehenge....

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/21/arrival-of-beaker-folk-changed-britain-forever-ancient-dna-study-shows

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[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Bloody mammals, comin' 'ere with their teats and udders and glands ... and that birthing method; it ain't natural, I tell yer!!!!!!

(A spokesperson for the Reptile Unity Movement)

[Serial_Apologist]

The English started bashing the British in 442! An end to this foreign muck! Only Music by Scots and Welsh composers on the BBC, if you please!

Too many oats at my age - and as for Welsh, we already have a cabinet full of leeks.