Grumble Thread

[Frances_iom]

So just remember to check the whole chain - plug, socket and only then the fuse board/consumer unit etc.... unless your whole house is in darkness of course...

There is a cheap gizmo that eases this - looks like a plug top with 3 neon lights - readily available from Electrical distributors + probably various places such as Toolstation for about £10 or less - will check socket has power, is earthed + is wired correctly.

[cloughie]

I like your ingenuity Bryn!

Yes but maybe a bit over the top just for a doorbell!

[Dave2002]

There is a cheap gizmo that eases this - looks like a plug top with 3 neon lights - readily available from Electrical distributors + probably various places such as Toolstation for about £10 or less - will check socket has power, is earthed + is wired correctly.

Indeed - see https://www.amazon.co.uk/Automatic-E...41707168&psc=1

or https://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-ms686...9&gclsrc=3p.ds

or https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Socket-Te...-/293305356472

[Bryn]

Yes but maybe a bit over the top just for a doorbell!

It is "just a doorbell". Amazon ASIN: B07YYCJGRS . The Beethoven is just one of many 'chimes' available to choose from.

[Dave2002]

There is a cheap gizmo that eases this - looks like a plug top with 3 neon lights - readily available from Electrical distributors + probably various places such as Toolstation for about £10 or less - will check socket has power, is earthed + is wired correctly.

Circuits tripped again early this morning. Still no resolution.

Can wires trailed on the floor cause a problem? I noticed a couple feeding some computers which had been left connected overnight. The computers were off, but maybe the wiring being in contact with the floor allows an earth leakage current to pass.

[Frances_iom]

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Can wires trailed on the floor cause a problem? I noticed a couple feeding some computers which had been left connected overnight. The computers were off, but maybe the wiring being in contact with the floor allows an earth leakage current to pass.

Obvious check the leads for physical damage (eg caused by being caught under a chair leg) or caught by a sharp edge that has cut thru the insulation. A common cause of tripping RCBs is the combined leakage of several devices especially older equipment that include noise filters that include a small capacitance to earth (possibly older computers).
The more exotic failures to look for include is the circuit passing thru an area where vermin can get to - mice + their larger relatives like to test their teeth on modern wiring and have been known to strip them to the bare copper - some even get into consumer unit where a bite in the 'right' place can result in a mouse shaped lump of burnt flesh

[Dave2002]

Obvious check the leads for physical damage (eg caused by being caught under a chair leg) or caught by a sharp edge that has cut thru the insulation. A common cause of tripping RCBs is the combined leakage of several devices especially older equipment that include noise filters that include a small capacitance to earth (possibly older computers).

I am suspecting a combination effect.

Also, what about those surge protector devices which double up as extension points - do they cause problems?

[Serial_Apologist]

Channel 4 has just emailed me to recommend NAKED ATTRACTION!!!!!

This is after ***innocently*** uploading something from their version of the iplayer a week ago.

Never having pre-checked for anything coming on late on CH4 I would not have known about the existence of this programme, were it not for watching Gogglebox!

[gradus]

Channel 4 has just emailed me to recommend NAKED ATTRACTION!!!!!

This is after ***innocently*** uploading something from their version of the iplayer a week ago.

Never having pre-checked for anything coming on late on CH4 I would not have known about the existence of this programme, were it not for watching Gogglebox!

Don't tell your mother.

[Pulcinella]

An irritation more than a grumble.

Record companies seem not to have standardised which side of a cardboard CD sleeve (in multi-CD box sets) is the open one.
I often find myself wondering if it's the top or the right-hand side that I need to shake the CD out through.

[cloughie]

An irritation more than a grumble.

Record companies seem not to have standardised which side of a cardboard CD sleeve (in multi-CD box sets) is the open one.
I often find myself wondering if it's the top or the right-hand side that I need to shake the CD out through.

...and BIS gatefold sleeves are slightly larger than jewel cases.

[Bryn]

...and BIS gatefold sleeves are slightly larger than jewel cases.

The packaging, not the content.

[Pulcinella]

The packaging, not the content.

Indeed!
Birtwistle's Harrison's Clocks was in something like that.

https://www.discogs.com/Harrison-Birtwistle-Joanna-MacGregor-Harrisons-Clocks/release/9975300

[Dave2002]

Update on wiring - msgs 176, 180 and earlier. A new consumer unit was put in before Christmas replacing two separate units, and I think we now have an up to date internal supply system - conforming to the latest standards. This appears to have fixed most of the problems - at least for the time being.

[antongould]

...and BIS gatefold sleeves are slightly larger than jewel cases.

Hardly in the Steve Bruce class IMVVHO cloughers .........