Eurovision Song Contest

[LMcD]

I blame Farage for the UK entry coming last.

As I said to the lady wife late last night: 'You kip if you want to, I'm staying up for the result'.
(Not really..... and, yes, I know he left that party a while ago)

[BBMmk2]

What a load of baloney. I never watch it.

[Richard Barrett]

I blame Farage for the UK entry coming last.

Of course Farage didn't get where he is today without Cameron... I think they should commission me to write next year's entry - it couldn't possibly do worse than this year's so why not?

[Stanfordian]

What a load of baloney. I never watch it.

I saw bits of it last night. It's all about the event isn't it. I know a few people who make a real celebration out of it.

If Elton John or Rod Stewart when in their prime were to perform one of their hit songs for Britain they still wouldn't win.

[edashtav]

Of course Farage didn't get where he is today without Cameron... I think they should commission me to write next year's entry - it couldn't possibly do worse than this year's so why not?

Oh, entries to Eurovision are too important to depend on a sole composer, Richard Barrett. By the time your composition has been homogenised and Euro-proofed by a panel of co-composers, who may include a lad involved in the Swedish entry, you will not recognise it!

[kernelbogey]

Of course Farage didn't get where he is today without Cameron... I think they should commission me to write next year's entry - it couldn't possibly do worse than this year's so why not?

It's always been a curious event, and the selection of the UK entry a mystery - so, certainly.

Although my earlier post (30) was mostly tongue in cheek, I wonder how much B****t may have played a part in the result. I didn't think much of the UK entry - but there were much worse performances/songs, in my view, that scored much better; perhaps some voters thought that if the UK is leaving the EU it deserves peux de points.

[MrGongGong]

I make no apologies of suggesting this for next years event

[Dave2002]

If you really must know the rankings - here they are - https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsb...ast/ar-AABA6P6

[edashtav]

I make no apologies of suggesting this for next years event

Terrific: you deserve a Gong for it MrGongGong!

[Serial_Apologist]

For fairly obvious reasons, we rarely talk about pop music on this forum. But this occasion offers me an oppportunity to express a view I've long had about pop music, which I rarely listen to, but whenever I do I am always struck by the fact that it never seems to change at all in its idiom; what we were being presented with on this show could have been presented at any time over the past, what, 40 years?

I say this with some irk, given that modernists such as myself have often been accused of wanting something new and original to be one of the chief defining aspects of contemporary music of any kind - the accusers arguing that this has to be the only age which is obsessed with novelty, and comparing us with commentators at the time of Mozart or Beethoven, who would not have prioritised novelty as in itself praiseworthy. The answer to such criticism, I've always felt, is that such indifference on the part of 18th century critics in no way prevented the great composers of the past from innovating, thereby evolving in congruence with the spirit of their eras, whereas today's pop music, in contradistinction with what is so often promoted as capitalism's guiding spirit, namely helping bring about novelty in all consumable products, remains stuck, hamstrung by its self-imposed limitations and apparent need to self-replicate its most boring and predictable clichés ad nauseam.

Anyway, I'm glad to have got that off my chest!

[cloughie]

Of course Farage didn't get where he is today without Cameron... I think they should commission me to write next year's entry - it couldn't possibly do worse than this year's so why not?

I’ll go Dutch with you Richard - you pen it and I’ll sing it! Better still a Cameron Farage duet - working title Brexit Dawn.

[jayne lee wilson]

Of course Farage didn't get where he is today without Cameron... I think they should commission me to write next year's entry - it couldn't possibly do worse than this year's so why not?

Working title II:
Everything May Change, Nothing May Change, except May...

[cloughie]

Working title II:
Everything May Change, Nothing May Change, except May...

It what else may happen before the end of May.

[kernelbogey]

For fairly obvious reasons, we rarely talk about pop music on this forum. But this occasion offers me an oppportunity to express a view I've long had about pop music, which I rarely listen to, but whenever I do I am always struck by the fact that it never seems to change at all in its idiom; what we were being presented with on this show could have been presented at any time over the past, what, 40 years?

I say this with some irk, given that modernists such as myself have often been accused of wanting something new and original to be one of the chief defining aspects of contemporary music of any kind - the accusers arguing that this has to be the only age which is obsessed with novelty, and comparing us with commentators at the time of Mozart or Beethoven, who would not have prioritised novelty as in itself praiseworthy. The answer to such criticism, I've always felt, is that such indifference on the part of 18th century critics in no way prevented the great composers of the past from innovating, thereby evolving in congruence with the spirit of their eras, whereas today's pop music, in contradistinction with what is so often promoted as capitalism's guiding spirit, namely helping bring about novelty in all consumable products, remains stuck, hamstrung by its self-imposed limitations and apparent need to self-replicate its most boring and predictable clichés ad nauseam.

Anyway, I'm glad to have got that off my chest!

Well maybe, SA....

But Ohhh for a bit of melody.

And while they're about it, not the same short phrase repeated fifty times in three minutes.....

[MrGongGong]

For fairly obvious reasons, we rarely talk about pop music on this forum. But this occasion offers me an oppportunity to express a view I've long had about pop music, which I rarely listen to, but whenever I do I am always struck by the fact that it never seems to change at all in its idiom; what we were being presented with on this show could have been presented at any time over the past, what, 40 years?

I think that, to those unfamiliar with the idiomatic differences (do I mean this exactly ?) between genres , musics we are unfamiliar with do sound "the same".
To those unfamiliar with the genre divisions in Western Art Music, Bach, Webern, Xenakis and Mozart all sound "the same".

The sub genres of musics are eternally fascinating to musicologists.

I also think that it depends on what listening strategies one uses.
I was listening to some Tangerine Dream over the weekend, to my ears now it sounds thin, lacking in depth and very bass light.
and what Christopher Small said ... (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...61380990010102)