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  • Dave2002
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 18034

    Notre-Dame, Paris

    Sad news here - the building has caught fire and the spire has collapsed.

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  • DracoM
    Host
    • Mar 2007
    • 12986

    #2
    Appalling news - terrible scenes.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30450

      #3
      Heartbreaking.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • pastoralguy
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7799

        #4
        Absolutely terrible. Just horrific.

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        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12307

          #5
          This is desperately sad news and so terrible to watch I've had to switch off.
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37812

            #6
            The beautiful stained glass is what I will miss most.

            How come what looked like only two fire hoses were being trained on the building? I was watching footage of warehouses alight in WW2, surrounded by dozens of fire hoses being trained on fires by firemen on high ladders. We (or they) don't seem to have progressed much in ways of fighting fires in the meantime. And how about employing planes flying overhead directing streams of water down, as happens in heathland fires?

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            • Richard Tarleton

              #7
              Heartbreaking indeed....that spire falling, as Vincent Cronin said in his guide book (which I took to Paris with me in 1967), it took the Gothic and hammered it out like a sword....

              Seems much of it is made of wood....

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #8
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                The beautiful stained glass is what I will miss most.

                How come what looked like only two fire hoses were being trained on the building? I was watching footage of warehouses alight in WW2, surrounded by dozens of fire hoses being trained on fires by firemen on high ladders. We (or they) don't seem to have progressed much in ways of fighting fires in the meantime. And how about employing planes flying overhead directing streams of water down, as happens in heathland fires?
                If I heard correctly, much of the stained glass has been saved.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37812

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  If I heard correctly, much of the stained glass has been saved.
                  If so, that, I have to admit, would be amazing.

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                  • doversoul1
                    Ex Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7132

                    #10
                    Reading the news on line is as much as I can do. I can’t possibly watch it. Heart breaking indeed.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                      If so, that, I have to admit, would be amazing.
                      Mind you, does not the 'current' stained glass date from the 1960s, and the great organ restoration from the 1990s? There is also already some talk of possible restoration of the spire, a relatively recent construction.

                      The now collapsed main spire dates from after the French Revolution (the original was dismantled during that revolutionary period).
                      Last edited by Bryn; 15-04-19, 20:01. Reason: Update.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30450

                        #12
                        Mark Sealey sent this recent photo of the rose window. Enlarged, the details that can be seen are incredible. In the US they're saying that nothing will be saved:

                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • jayne lee wilson
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 10711

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          The beautiful stained glass is what I will miss most.

                          How come what looked like only two fire hoses were being trained on the building? I was watching footage of warehouses alight in WW2, surrounded by dozens of fire hoses being trained on fires by firemen on high ladders. We (or they) don't seem to have progressed much in ways of fighting fires in the meantime. And how about employing planes flying overhead directing streams of water down, as happens in heathland fires?
                          On the live Sky/BBC TV feeds (after D Trump had tweeted about such) someone commented that dropping water from above was potentially even more destructive to fragile structures, due to the sheer weight of the water...

                          There are still plenty of elemental forces we cannot control, or not very well.... jus think of all those recent forest fires in California, Australia etc....

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                          • Stunsworth
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1553

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            On the live Sky/BBC TV feeds (after D Trump had tweeted about such) someone commented that dropping water from above was potentially even more destructive to fragile structures, due to the sheer weight of the water...

                            There are still plenty of elemental forces we cannot control, or not very well.... jus think of all those recent forest fires in California, Australia etc....
                            Each cubic metre of water weighs a tonne. Each cubic metre of water would be travelling at around 200 mph when released from a plane. Not all of those tonnes would land on the church. The damage to the cathedral, and surrounding area, would be immense.

                            I used to live less than 20 minutes walk from Norte Dame and visited often. I’m heartbroken.
                            Steve

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              #15
                              Very sad news
                              BUT i'm sure it will rise again

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