April Schedule Changes

[Pulcinella]

Let's be honest: quite a few of the so-called "professionals" don't do a particularly good job at present, anyway! There are quite a few well known programmes in the schedule which have gone way past their sell by date. Apart from the obvious offenders (ie the weekday morning schedule) Private Passions is one that no serious lover of classical music would miss, I opine. Can anyone remember the last time any of the guests exhibited a real appreciation of serious music? They're almost all chosen thanks to the cushy relationship between their agents and the show's producers.

I miss it quite often, deliberately.


(Sorry; couldn't resist that! I DO know what you mean. The delights of the English language, eh?)

[Serial_Apologist]

I miss it quite often, deliberately.


(Sorry; couldn't resist that! I DO know what what you mean. The delights of the English language, eh?)

There's probably some term for such examples of misinterpretability!

[cloughie]

I miss it quite often, deliberately.


(Sorry; couldn't resist that! I DO know what what you mean. The delights of the English language, eh?)

I positively avoid it!

[jayne lee wilson]

Yes, give her a chance. But on the face of it, what sort of 'younger listener' would be attracted to a programme because of Jess Gillam? A pop fan? A classical fan? A jazz fan? Aren't the classical or jazz fans most likely to be listening to Radio 3 already?

And how will they, in any numbers, hear about her programme on Radio 3 if they don't listen to the station?

This is exactly why such programmes ought to be (but aren't) on the services to which young people already listen - not on Radio 3 which most of them have never heard of.

Point well taken but are we sure that enough "classical and jazz fans" (of whatever generation) are aware of Radio 3, or switch it on much? If Jess Gillam's Classical Choices aren't likely to appear on Radio 1 anytime soon, her programmes need promotion - yes, TV Ads if necessary, any and all possibilities should be taken up to raise the Radio 3 profile. Why not?

Things don't move in straight lines - and move faster than ever. The huge appetite for, and proliferation of, high-quality TV Drama series (some of which I'm quite keen on myself) seem to reveal a craving for cultural substance......the various online TV review sites show an extraordinary attention to the detail of narrative,language etc....

I think that could still happen with Classical Music too, however you try to define it.....but it probably has to come from another direction however defiant the devoted rearguard.

[teamsaint]

I work in environment where ( the mostly young) people are liberal, educated and interested in the arts, and classical music ( and Radio 3) is way off the radar of almost everybody.

I don’t have any idea really of how that might change other than to suggest that it might change due to people plugging into the obvious expertise of others, ( in earlier times theough Bernstein, Gould, Previn etc, ) or through events driven activity , which in this music would likely be the Proms.

There is a huge world of accessible music and arts out there, and honestly, and without wishing to be negative, initiatives like the Jess Gillam show aren’t going to touch anybody except the already engaged, such as music students. It amounts to little more than box ticking, by career driven managers, IMO.


Not sure what Jayne means by the “ Devoted Rearguard”.

[DracoM]

Agreed, BUT you can imagine how it will play for Jess G and US and R3 when they start to big up everything way, way OTT non-stop - as they do?
I am already shuddering.

[jayne lee wilson]

"Devoted Rearguard"?

You, me and FoR3 - at least in some moods, some of the time.......

....Anyone who feels they have to defend a set of principles and qualities which are already under threat or disappearing, despite the grim awareness of probably fighting a losing battle; and who continue to defend those things because of their passionate belief in them.

[vinteuil]

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"Devoted Rearguard"?

You, me and FoR3 - at least in some moods, some of the time.......

....Anyone who feels they have to defend a set of principles and qualities which are already under threat or disappearing, despite the grim awareness of probably fighting a losing battle; and who continue to defend those things because of their passionate belief in them.

... or possibly a forlorn hope :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forlorn_hope

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[Sir Velo]

I miss it quite often, deliberately.


(Sorry; couldn't resist that! I DO know what you mean. The delights of the English language, eh?)

Ellipsis?

[Pulcinella]

Ellipsis?

Only in the sense that perhaps something is omitted that would have clarified the sense intended?
We need jean (RIP) or perhaps frenchie.
Maybe this is nothing other than an unfortunate possible ambiguity?

[french frank]

Only in the sense that perhaps something is omitted that would have clarified the sense intended?

The OED has an extraordinary number of definitions for 'to miss', overlapping in meaning and quite different. The closest I see are:

13. transitive. a. To fail to take advantage of; to let slip (an opportunity, etc.).
and
19. transitive. To notice with regret the absence or loss of; to feel the lack of.

Just going out to get some vegetables for my fish lunch or I would analyse these further

[Pulcinella]

The OED has an extraordinary number of definitions for 'to miss', overlapping in meaning and quite different. The closest I see are:

13. transitive. a. To fail to take advantage of; to let slip (an opportunity, etc.).
and
19. transitive. To notice with regret the absence or loss of; to feel the lack of.

Just going out to get some vegetables for my fish lunch or I would analyse these further

It's more the expression for possible ambiguity/misunderstanding we were wondering about, frenchie.

[french frank]

It's more the expression for possible ambiguity/misunderstanding we were wondering about, frenchie.

I thought I was too though I did rather curtail my comment (decided on purple sprouting broccoli in the end, but don't think it went well with baked cod).

[zola]

This Classical Life.....Surely there's little justification for broadcasting repeats of the thing ? Other than cheapness ?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

This Classical Life.....Surely there's little justification for broadcasting repeats of the thing ? Other than cheapness ?

There's little justification for the programme at all - simpering chat with a a distant musical background zooming in and out, just because the BBC has decided to adopt Jess as their current pin-up girl. It's disrespectful to the musician and to the listeners.