Does this constitute snobbery?

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  • Bryn
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    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
    ....yeah , I'm sure I saw Pans People do it once....
    Bear in mind that Nijinsky's was thought lost, for several decades.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
      No - I don't think that is correct.
      Oh, it is. (It's not many months before we can enjoy fruits of the forest pudding.)

      Of course if we consider another one "fish" - there is historical precedent for "fishes", though (sadly) I've not come across "sheeps".
      No - but there is a parallel with "people" and "peoples" ("the peoples of the world consist of people from many different countries and cultures").


      (And then there's "Musics" ... )
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        You might need to be a bit more specific about that. A good many choreographers have had a go at the Rite of Spring, for instance.
        Good point
        Thanks

        Any other questions folks ?

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12798

          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          You might need to be a bit more specific about that. A good many choreographers have had a go at the Rite of Spring, for instance.
          .
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          Good point
          Thanks
          ... additional points could be awarded for all the (other) choreographers who did the Rite.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Bear in mind that Nijinsky's was thought lost, for several decades.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
              • 8425

              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
              Really? Not sure I agree.

              I think that the majority of respondents to this thread have sided with the culturally ignorant lady out of a natural desire to take the side of the underdog. I think, if we're being honest with ourselves, we will all recognise Conchis' reaction as one which we would have felt in the same circumstances, as in "How can someone work in the arts and not heard of Kafka?"

              Where I differ from Conchis is that my view is motivated by a sense of despair at the state of widespread ignorance in this country, rather than one of snobbery.
              Ouch!
              Since when did apparently not knowing anything about a particular subject or person make one 'culturally ignorant'?
              Are we also saying that anybody working in the arts who hasn't heard of Kafka is unqualified to work in that field?

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37636

                Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                Ouch!
                Since when did apparently not knowing anything about a particular subject or person make one 'culturally ignorant'?
                Are we also saying that anybody working in the arts who hasn't heard of Kafka is unqualified to work in that field?
                As french frank said above, it depends on which of the arts.

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                • gradus
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5606

                  That Nijinsky was one hell of a talented horse.

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                  • eighthobstruction
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6432

                    ,,,,this woman is obviously one those people who regularly uses "it was surreal " ad hoc to describe certain situations....Kafkaesque - Dadaist - Daliesque - not at her disposal....Trump only has 3 or 4 adjectives of size and just puts very, very, very, or most, most, most before them....
                    bong ching

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                    • eighthobstruction
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 6432

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Bear in mind that Nijinsky's was thought lost, for several decades.
                      Lost???....They Sergei for him everywhere but he Diaghilev
                      bong ching

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                      • LMcD
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                        • Sep 2017
                        • 8425

                        Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                        Yesterday, I worked with a woman in her late fifties who had never heard of Kafka.

                        I may be wrong (and probably am) but I found this absolutely horrifying, as well as embarrassing. Said woman does not lack formal education and is not a from a materially deprived background....but she had never heard of the Czech novelist, or of his works.

                        After learning this, I'm afraid I cold-shouldered her for the rest of the day. I just found it embarrassing to be in the same space as someone so casually ignorant.

                        Does this make me a snob and/or a 'bad person'?
                        Nobody seems to be concerned about how the unfortunate lady felt to be in the same space as someone so casually arrogant. (I'm not sure how one is 'casually ignorant'....?)
                        The significance of her not being from a materially deprived background escapes me. I grew up in what, to put it mildly, I would describe as extremely modest circumstances (and can I just say what an honour it is to be able to converse in this way with my betters)

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                        • eighthobstruction
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6432

                          Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                          Nobody seems to be concerned about how the unfortunate lady felt to be in the same space as someone so casually arrogant. (I'm not sure how one is 'casually ignorant'....?)
                          The significance of her not being from a materially deprived background escapes me. I grew up in what, to put it mildly, I would describe as extremely modest circumstances (and can I just say what an honour it is to be able to converse in this way with my betters)
                          ....I feel the same LMcD....I'm a low grade polymath and love the use of it that i get here....
                          bong ching

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            . . . (and can I just say what an honour it is to be able to converse in this way with my betters)
                            All well and good, but what has that to do with contributing to this forum?

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                              Nobody seems to be concerned about how the unfortunate lady felt to be in the same space as someone so casually arrogant.
                              "Unfortunate"? Conchis "cold-shouldered her"! I'd call that a result. (She probably did her PhD on Verfremdungseffekt in Brecht and Kafka - an Epistemolgical Deconstruction.)
                              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                              • eighthobstruction
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6432

                                ....Ooooo i love a bit of epistemology....especially when gets down and dirty with something about the hegemony thrown in....Calum da Jazbo was good for that sort of thing....as long as I don't have to read the books....
                                bong ching

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