Does this constitute snobbery?

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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8782

    Someone's getting a bit touchy, I think. If you wish to treat my posts the same way you treated the lady mentioned in your original post, I'll do my best not to top myself.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30608

      Originally posted by Conchis View Post
      But I didn’t ask you, did I?
      The reason you get so many replies is precisely because you are alone in your view but you refuse to accept the undeniable weight of contrary opinion. That's just stubborness. If you still believe you're right, why did you frame the topic as a question in the first place?
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • doversoul1
        Ex Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 7132

        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        The reason you get so many replies is precisely because you are alone in your view but you refuse to accept the undeniable weight of contrary opinion. That's just stubborness. If you still believe you're right, why did you frame the topic as a question in the first place?
        We (well, a lot of people) tend to put the matter in question when we expect a resounding ‘yes’ or 'no, of course it doesn't/you are not etc.'.

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        • eighthobstruction
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 6455

          Aaaah now then , now then :<<"Nicholas is gradually drawn into Conchis's psychological games, his paradoxical views on life, his mysterious persona, and his eccentric masques. At first, Nicholas takes these posturings of Conchis, what the novel terms the "godgame", to be a joke, but they grow more elaborate and intense. Nicholas loses his ability to determine what is real and what is artifice. Against his will and knowledge, he becomes a performer in the godgame. Eventually, Nicholas realises that the re-enactments of the Nazi occupation, the absurd playlets after Sade, and the obscene parodies of Greek myths are not about Conchis's life, but his own">>
          bong ching

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7847

            Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
            Aaaah now then , now then :<<"Nicholas is gradually drawn into Conchis's psychological games, his paradoxical views on life, his mysterious persona, and his eccentric masques. At first, Nicholas takes these posturings of Conchis, what the novel terms the "godgame", to be a joke, but they grow more elaborate and intense. Nicholas loses his ability to determine what is real and what is artifice. Against his will and knowledge, he becomes a performer in the godgame. Eventually, Nicholas realises that the re-enactments of the Nazi occupation, the absurd playlets after Sade, and the obscene parodies of Greek myths are not about Conchis's life, but his own">>

            Sounds pretty Fowl to me!

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            • eighthobstruction
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6455

              <<"They are not having fun. I can't have fun if they don't. If I get them to have fun, then I can have fun with them. Getting them to have fun, is not fun. It is hard work. I might get fun out of finding out why they're not. I'm not supposed to get fun out of working out why they're not. But there is even some fun in pretending to them I'm not having fun finding out why they're not. R D Laing">>

              <<"there is something the matter with him because he thinks there must be something the matter with us for trying to help him to see that there must be something the matter with him to think that there is something the matter with us for trying to help him to see that we are helping him to see that we are not persecuting him by helping him to see we are not persecuting him by helping him to see that he is refusing to see that there is something the matter with him for not seeing there is something the matter with him ">> R D Laing
              bong ching

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              • Conchis
                Banned
                • Jun 2014
                • 2396

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                The reason you get so many replies is precisely because you are alone in your view but you refuse to accept the undeniable weight of contrary opinion. That's just stubborness. If you still believe you're right, why did you frame the topic as a question in the first place?
                I think if you look over the thread (not something I’m actually suggesting you do!:)), you’ll find that, while a mi orotund of people have decided I’m a snob, most replies are intriguingly equivocal.

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                • Conchis
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2396

                  Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                  <<"They are not having fun. I can't have fun if they don't. If I get them to have fun, then I can have fun with them. Getting them to have fun, is not fun. It is hard work. I might get fun out of finding out why they're not. I'm not supposed to get fun out of working out why they're not. But there is even some fun in pretending to them I'm not having fun finding out why they're not. R D Laing">>

                  <<"there is something the matter with him because he thinks there must be something the matter with us for trying to help him to see that there must be something the matter with him to think that there is something the matter with us for trying to help him to see that we are helping him to see that we are not persecuting him by helping him to see we are not persecuting him by helping him to see that he is refusing to see that there is something the matter with him for not seeing there is something the matter with him ">> R D Laing
                  Tied up in Knots!

                  T

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30608

                    Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                    I think if you look over the thread (not something I’m actually suggesting you do!:)), you’ll find that, while a mi orotund of people have decided I’m a snob, most replies are intriguingly equivocal.
                    I think you delude yourself. I can't see any reply which suggests that your reaction to the lady you describe is anything but unreasonable and/or reprehensible. But you aren't ashamed of it. Fine. Only you will suffer in ways of which you may not even be aware
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Conchis
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2396

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      I think you delude yourself. I can't see any reply which suggests that your reaction to the lady you describe is anything but unreasonable and/or reprehensible. But you aren't ashamed of it. Fine. Only you will suffer in ways of which you may not even be aware
                      The group want to work with me again, so obviously they feel I have t been punished enough!

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                      • ardcarp
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11102

                        I think your first post was perfectly reasonable Conchis in that you were being entirely honest about your thoughts.
                        Most of Pedants' Corner operates on the premise that people are taken to task for usages which are...well...frowned upon by the cognoscenti. This in itself smacks of snobbery. And I plead guilty. It makes me flinch when the verb 'to come' is conjugated (or rather not conjugated) as 'come' in the third person singular. But why? Meaning is perfectly clear. And why should we look down more on a native speaker with this quirk than, say, a French speaker with imperfect English (e.g. 'e come to Pareee for 'oliday)?
                        Last edited by ardcarp; 27-02-19, 12:25.

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                        • Dave2002
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 18057

                          It's not helped by supermarkets either, which sell packets of mixed "fruits".

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                          • Old Grumpy
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 3675

                            Myself and Mrs G recently went to an excellent exhibition which has just opened at the Abbot Hall Art Gallery, Kendal. There was a visitor's book for comments. Some (? pedant; ? snob) had written that the whole exhibition had been spoilt for them by the number of grammatical and other errors in the accompanying explanatory plates. There were (I admit I noticed them and inwardly remarked on them) misplaced apostrophes and words where the plural form was used where it should have been singular (e.g. medium/media) - but did it spoil the exhibition, no not one bit! Mrs G wrote a comment to that effect on the following page.

                            OG

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                              It's not helped by supermarkets either, which sell packets of mixed "fruits".
                              Chill out Dave

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                              • Richard Barrett
                                Guest
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 6259

                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                Chill out Dave
                                country of origin: somewhere in the biosphere

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