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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Today's the Day

    20th January is the eve of St Agnes' Day - a Roman saint who was tortured and killed by her family because she refused to marry the husband set aside for her; her preference was to maintain her chastity for her Christian Faith. As a consequence, young unmarried women would use this evening to pray to her to show them their future husband in a dream this night. (Don't ask me for the logic in appealing to this particular Saint for the granting of this particular request.) Sometimes a little extra "help" was added to the prayers - including the baking of a "dumb" or "Dutch" cake (half flour, half salt! AND involving twirling round and round during the baking process and adding more salt: St Agnes should be the patroness of hypertension), and/or throwing hemp seeds () over the shoulder so that the face of the future husband might be seen in the dust that arose as a result.

    Keats' poem (see "Poetry" Thread) gives in its entirety an example of what I suspect must have been many young men who used the occasion to "cheat" - in the poem, the "hero" hides in the heroine's bedroom, and makes sure that his is the first face she sees on waking. Cad!


    AND

    On Radio 3 this day fifty years ago, the morning schedules from 7:00am - Noon consisted of

    Overture ("from gramophone records")
    Morning Concert (James Loughran conducting the BBCSSO)
    This Week's Composer (Bach)
    The Master Pianists (Godowski and Hoffmann
    Talking About Music (Antony Hopkins)
    Music Making (Iain Hamilton and Beethoven)
    From the Proms
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12472

    #2
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    [ ... I was going to congratulate you, on the Poetry thread, for getting the date ]



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    • Padraig
      Full Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 4152

      #3
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      20th January is the eve of St Agnes' Day
      I've read your Poetry post ferney. Happy memories. I have not read much of Keats since school, but I bought a beautifully bound volume of his poetry as a present for someone who loved him. I wonder, more than 60 years later, where she is now.

      And I don't think I was listening to the radio that day fifty years ago. Apart from work, there were four children under seven years of age demanding attention. Those were the days.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        Ah! My apologies to Agnes' family.

        (And thank you )
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #5
          Originally posted by Padraig View Post
          I've read your Poetry post ferney. Happy memories. I have not read much of Keats since school, but I bought a beautifully bound volume of his poetry as a present for someone who loved him. I wonder, more than 60 years later, where she is now.

          And I don't think I was listening to the radio that day fifty years ago. Apart from work, there were four children under seven years of age demanding attention. Those were the days.
          Lovely response, Padriag - thank you.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 29521

            #6
            My mother used to reckon that January 21st was when the 'lighter nights' first became noticeable.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Edgy 2
              Guest
              • Jan 2019
              • 2035

              #7
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post

              On Radio 3 this day fifty years ago, the morning schedules from 7:00am - Noon consisted of

              Overture ("from gramophone records")
              Morning Concert (James Loughran conducting the BBCSSO)
              This Week's Composer (Bach)
              The Master Pianists (Godowski and Hoffmann
              Talking About Music (Antony Hopkins)
              Music Making (Iain Hamilton and Beethoven)
              From the Proms
              “Music is the best means we have of digesting time." — Igor Stravinsky

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              • Pulcinella
                Host
                • Feb 2014
                • 10256

                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                20th January is the eve of St Agnes' Day - a Roman saint who was tortured and killed by her family because she refused to marry the husband set aside for her; her preference was to maintain her chastity for her Christian Faith. As a consequence, young unmarried women would use this evening to pray to her to show them their future husband in a dream this night. (Don't ask me for the logic in appealing to this particular Saint for the granting of this particular request.) Sometimes a little extra "help" was added to the prayers - including the baking of a "dumb" or "Dutch" cake (half flour, half salt! AND involving twirling round and round during the baking process and adding more salt: St Agnes should be the patroness of hypertension), and/or throwing hemp seeds () over the shoulder so that the face of the future husband might be seen in the dust that arose as a result.

                Keats' poem (see "Poetry" Thread) gives in its entirety an example of what I suspect must have been many young men who used the occasion to "cheat" - in the poem, the "hero" hides in the heroine's bedroom, and makes sure that his is the first face she sees on waking. Cad!


                AND

                On Radio 3 this day fifty years ago, the morning schedules from 7:00am - Noon consisted of

                Overture ("from gramophone records")
                Morning Concert (James Loughran conducting the BBCSSO)
                This Week's Composer (Bach)
                The Master Pianists (Godowski and Hoffmann
                Talking About Music (Antony Hopkins)
                Music Making (Iain Hamilton and Beethoven)
                From the Proms
                20 January 1969 was a Monday, by the way.

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25099

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  20 January 1969 was a Monday, by the way.
                  Are you one of those people who can work this sort of thing out in your head instantly ?
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Pulcinella
                    Host
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10256

                    #10
                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    Are you one of those people who can work this sort of thing out in your head instantly ?
                    No!
                    That's where Google comes in handy.
                    Just thought it was worth looking up, as that didn't seem like a Sunday morning schedule to me.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      21st January

                      Well today is St Agnes' Day - hope everyone had pleasant dreams last night!

                      It's also Midwives' Day in Bulgaria, Grandmother's Day in Poland, and National Hugging Day in the US - so good luck with that and to all American Forumistas!

                      Birthdays, too, of among others Henri Duparc, Stonewall Jackson, Rasputin (NS), Telly Savalas, and Benny Hill.

                      And on Radio 3 on this day, forty years ago (a Sunday) the pre-noon schedules were:

                      Forty Years of Heifetz (Beethoven and Vieuxtemps)
                      Your Concert Choice (Haydn Organ Concerto, Prokofiev 1st PnoConc, Kodaly Conc for Orch)
                      Music Weekly
                      From the Proms (Schumann Manfred Ovt, Iain Hamilton Cleopatra)
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 29521

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                        No!
                        That's where Google comes in handy.
                        Just thought it was worth looking up, as that didn't seem like a Sunday morning schedule to me.
                        Or the Genome:

                        Sunday 19th Jan, 1969:

                        8.00 : NEWS; WEATHER
                        8.04 : WHAT'S NEW?
                        A weekly programme of recent records
                        9.00 : NEWS; WEATHER
                        9.04 : HAYDN'S PIANO TRIOS
                        Third of twelve weekly programmes played by the OROMONTE PIANO Trio
                        Trio in F sharp minor (H.XV.26)
                        9.19*Trio in D minor (H.XV.23)
                        H.XV.26 broadcast on July 28. 1968; H.XV.23 on October 6, 1968
                        G minor (H.XV. 19); C major (H.XV. 27)
                        9.45 : YOUR CONCERT CHOICE
                        A request programme of gramophone records
                        11.00 : MUSIC MAGAZINE
                        Record Review
                        ALAN BLYTH JOAN CHISSELL and EDWARD GREENFIELD
                        Introduced by JULIAN HERBAGE
                        11.50 : BACH
                        The 48 Preludes and Fugues played by DENIS MATTHEWS (piano)
                        Book l, Nos. 7-12
                        Second in a series of eight programmes
                        12.25 : SHOSTAKOVICH STRING QUARTETS
                        played by the BORODIN STRING QUARTET
                        Part 1 Quartet No. 6, in G major
                        Op. 101 (1956) 12.55 : BILLY BUDD ⓢ
                        Music by Benjamin Britten
                        AMBROSIAN OPERA CHORUS
                        LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
                        Conducted by the composer
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Yes - I'm getting my information from the Genome, although I'm also having to translate much of the information into English.
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 21995

                            #14
                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Or the Genome:

                            Sunday 19th Jan, 1969:

                            8.00 : NEWS; WEATHER
                            8.04 : WHAT'S NEW?
                            A weekly programme of recent records
                            9.00 : NEWS; WEATHER
                            9.04 : HAYDN'S PIANO TRIOS
                            Third of twelve weekly programmes played by the OROMONTE PIANO Trio
                            Trio in F sharp minor (H.XV.26)
                            9.19*Trio in D minor (H.XV.23)
                            H.XV.26 broadcast on July 28. 1968; H.XV.23 on October 6, 1968
                            G minor (H.XV. 19); C major (H.XV. 27)
                            9.45 : YOUR CONCERT CHOICE
                            A request programme of gramophone records
                            11.00 : MUSIC MAGAZINE
                            Record Review
                            ALAN BLYTH JOAN CHISSELL and EDWARD GREENFIELD
                            Introduced by JULIAN HERBAGE
                            11.50 : BACH
                            The 48 Preludes and Fugues played by DENIS MATTHEWS (piano)
                            Book l, Nos. 7-12
                            Second in a series of eight programmes
                            12.25 : SHOSTAKOVICH STRING QUARTETS
                            played by the BORODIN STRING QUARTET
                            Part 1 Quartet No. 6, in G major
                            Op. 101 (1956) 12.55 : BILLY BUDD ⓢ
                            Music by Benjamin Britten
                            AMBROSIAN OPERA CHORUS
                            LONDON SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
                            Conducted by the composer
                            Whatever happened to the Oromonte Piano Trio?

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 29521

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Whatever happened to the Oromonte Piano Trio?
                              Dunno, never heard of them - I had to check that the spelling was correct (unlike the Borooin Quartet).
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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