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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37628

    #91
    Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
    Bricked is a technical term - it means a piece of complex electronics has been turned into a useless lump & no longer functions.
    Just goes to show how out of date I must be! In my day "bricked" meant having said object, or part thereof, either thrown at or brought down upon someone's head for purposes of causing grievous bodily harm, or worse.

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22116

      #92
      Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
      Bricked is a technical term - it means a piece of complex electronics has been turned into a useless lump & no longer functions.
      Bascially, it can no longer play any BBC radio stations - which was the only reason we got it. DAB & FM reception are terrible in our bit of the Forest of Dean.
      The BBC are now insisting that "BBC Sounds App" users link their Alexa & BBC accounts - but it doesn't work for a lot of people, hence no radio. The App currently has over 7000 negative (1 star) reviews out of ~8800.

      Bloopers can be quite entertaining, TC's included. I still smile at Patricia Hughes' nightgown story.
      But why does linking up not work - I held off as long as I could but did so with no problem - can’t remember how I did it but as far as I can remember was straightforward - like you it is only thing I use Alexa for.

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      • AuntDaisy
        Host
        • Jun 2018
        • 1624

        #93
        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        But why does linking up not work - I held off as long as I could but did so with no problem - can’t remember how I did it but as far as I can remember was straightforward - like you it is only thing I use Alexa for.
        I have multiple e-mails confirming that "BBC Sounds skill is now linked to your Amazon Account", but the BBC Sounds App refuses to work and just comes up with a "you have to link your account" message and refuses to go further.
        The BBC have now resorted to FOUR sets of instructions and a "try them all" suggestion.

        The most recent BBC Sounds App reviews are all 1 star, and there are pages of others (sort by date):
        • Cannot link my smart speaker to BBC Sounds. Been trying since 9th April. Kist cannot be bothered to try any more
        • no longer can listen to bbc radio! tells me to link my account everytime i do nothing happens when will you fix this????
        • usless
        • i have used this everyday for2 years, have linked my acount as it sats to do but now it wont work. please fix
        • Was connected, now I'm not. Still taking the money.
        • Despite several attempts at linking my bbc account, I cannot get this to work.
        • utterly useless and a complete waste of time trying to link the accounts. Had to give it 1 star as there is no option for zero or negative stars.
        • Tried & tried & tried to link account - absolutely having none of it. Very disappointing. Very poo Had to give it 1 star to submit review but it does not deserve it

        I do scientific hardware / software as a job and have been a network admin, so I hope it's not me

        Here's what the BBC Sounds App rating currently looks like:


        We've also had the BBC Sounds App "The content doesn’t start, or it stops midway" problem for over a year, and I've reported it 3 times. It may be related to packet sizes being too big (we have a BThub, so MTU & MSS can't be changed), but I haven't got round to checking Network traffic with WireShark - but, frankly, I've lost the will to live re. BBC Sounds App. I've temporarily set up a Raspberry Pi Zero Internet radio.
        Last edited by AuntDaisy; 22-04-22, 18:14. Reason: Added stream issue comment & review image

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9152

          #94
          Originally posted by AuntDaisy View Post
          I have multiple e-mails confirming that "BBC Sounds skill is now linked to your Amazon Account", but the BBC Sounds App refuses to work and just comes up with a "you have to link your account" message and refuses to go further.
          The BBC have now resorted to FOUR sets of instructions and a "try them all" suggestion.

          The most recent BBC Sounds App reviews are all 1 star, and there are pages of others (sort by date):
          • Cannot link my smart speaker to BBC Sounds. Been trying since 9th April. Kist cannot be bothered to try any more
          • no longer can listen to bbc radio! tells me to link my account everytime i do nothing happens when will you fix this????
          • usless
          • i have used this everyday for2 years, have linked my acount as it sats to do but now it wont work. please fix
          • Was connected, now I'm not. Still taking the money.
          • Despite several attempts at linking my bbc account, I cannot get this to work.
          • utterly useless and a complete waste of time trying to link the accounts. Had to give it 1 star as there is no option for zero or negative stars.
          • Tried & tried & tried to link account - absolutely having none of it. Very disappointing. Very poo Had to give it 1 star to submit review but it does not deserve it

          I do scientific hardware / software as a job and have been a network admin, so I hope it's not me

          Here's what the BBC Sounds App rating currently looks like:


          We've also had the BBC Sounds App "The content doesn’t start, or it stops midway" problem for over a year, and I've reported it 3 times. It may be related to packet sizes being too big (we have a BThub, so MTU & MSS can't be changed), but I haven't got round to checking Network traffic with WireShark - but, frankly, I've lost the will to live re. BBC Sounds App. I've temporarily set up a Raspberry Pi Zero Internet radio.
          That 80% is world beating as a certain person would claim...

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          • AuntDaisy
            Host
            • Jun 2018
            • 1624

            #95
            Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
            That 80% is world beating as a certain person would claim...

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            • Piazolla
              Full Member
              • Nov 2021
              • 22

              #96
              The only Radio presenter I dislike on radio 3 is Georgia Mann, it's not necessarily what she says but in the way she says it, she has some very strange vocal inflections that become quite irritating! Also she seems to be trying too hard to be droll which seems at odd's with presenting classical music.
              Unfortunately it's not long before Essential Classics is switched off when I cant stick her delivery any longer, a shame as the music is excellent. It's always a great relief when Tom McKinney is doing the show.
              Last edited by Piazolla; 11-05-22, 08:07.

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22116

                #97
                Originally posted by Piazolla View Post
                The only Radio presenter I dislike on radio 3 is Georgia Mann, it's not necessarily what she says but in the way she says it, she has some very strange vocal inflections that become quite irritating! Also she seems to be trying too hard to be droll which seems at odd's with presenting classical music.
                Unfortunately it's not long before Essential Classics is switched off when I cant stick her delivery any longer, a shame as the music is excellent. It's always a great relief when Paul McKinney is doing the show.
                Or even Tom!

                Yes, I like his delivery!

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                • pastoralguy
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7741

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Piazolla View Post
                  The only Radio presenter I dislike on radio 3 is Georgia Mann, it's not necessarily what she says but in the way she says it, she has some very strange vocal inflections that become quite irritating! Also she seems to be trying too hard to be droll which seems at odd's with presenting classical music.
                  Unfortunately it's not long before Essential Classics is switched off when I cant stick her delivery any longer, a shame as the music is excellent. It's always a great relief when Paul McKinney is doing the show.
                  That’s interesting since she’s my favourite! I love her slightly snarky comments. Each to their own.

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                  • Alison
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6455

                    #99
                    I prefer Manny, guess I find those inflections slightly fascinating.

                    It’s Tom I find smug and a shade boring.

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                    • muzzer
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 1190

                      The simple problem is that anyone being over familiar in the cause of making friends on the radio will inevitably put off some listeners sooner or later. It’s the school uniform argument proof for RP, or a form thereof. And why the TTN presenters are so good. And btw they’re perfectly friendly, just not behoven to Twitter or the ‘where do you want to go next O playlisters’ abomination. It’s the format of EC that’s the problem. GM is a quality presenter.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30255

                        Originally posted by muzzer View Post
                        It’s the format of EC that’s the problem.
                        Also my opinion.

                        More controversially I think poor presenters should be hammered. Good presenters should provoke no comment whatsoever: they're doing the job they're being paid for. What they're presenting is what's important. I could be wrong, of course, and the BBC could be right: that what people enjoy is celebrity culture. And yes, in the Radio 3 universe, the presenters are celebrities, even if no one else has heard of them.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Also my opinion.

                          More controversially I think poor presenters should be hammered. Good presenters should provoke no comment whatsoever: they're doing the job they're being paid for. What they're presenting is what's important. I could be wrong, of course, and the BBC could be right: that what people enjoy is celebrity culture. And yes, in the Radio 3 universe, the presenters are celebrities, even if no one else has heard of them.
                          Admittedly, I only actually know a couple of them personally but for both, Radio 3 presentation is just one of a portmanteau of remunerated and unremunerated musical roles. I don't think either of them sees themself as a 'celebrity'.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30255

                            [QUOTE=Bryn;881433]Admittedly, I only actually know a couple of them personally but foad nauseam about the presenters. To me, that shows that something is wrong. I think it was Cormac Rigby who said their job was to 'serve the music'. But the BBC encourages presenters to be personalities - which is why some listeners will like Presenter A, loathe Presenter B and others take the opposing view.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              [QUOTE=french frank;881435]
                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Admittedly, I only actually know a couple of them personally but foad nauseam about the presenters. To me, that shows that something is wrong. I think it was Cormac Rigby who said their job was to 'serve the music'. But the BBC encourages presenters to be personalities - which is why some listeners will like Presenter A, loathe Presenter B and others take the opposing view.
                              Eh?

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30255

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                Admittedly, I only actually know a couple of them personally but for both, Radio 3 presentation is just one of a portmanteau of remunerated and unremunerated musical roles. I don't think either of them sees themself as a 'celebrity'.
                                I specified 'in the Radio 3 universe'. If people are talking ad nauseam about the presenters, to my mind something is wrong. That's the sense in which I used the word 'celebrity' - they have 'celebrity' ('the state or fact of being well known, widely discussed, or publicly esteemed'). I think it was Cormac Rigby who said their role was to 'serve the music' not to draw attention to themselves (consciously or not).

                                [All views my own: it's not a question on which there is 'right' or 'wrong']
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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