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  • Bryn
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 24688

    Getting a little bored with this thread, currently, so TTFN.

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22242

      Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
      But her pronunciation of French and other languages was pretty execrable.
      That’s a bit nitpicking uct. Probably as late sub for Lizzie she didn’t have time to get gallic as she drove the progamme on the hoof!
      She was pleasant, polite and a good presenter.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26606

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        polite
        … One would hope that’s rather a given for R3 presenters! However dire one might find some of them, it would be coming to something if any of them were actually impolite
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • kernelbogey
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 5848

          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          ...she drove the progamme on the hoof!
          Very much my sense of how she was doing it - and doing so well.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30666

            Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
            Very much my sense of how she was doing it - and doing so well.
            Not having anything to contribute about the latest recruit, I will just offer the thought of how 'important' presenters are: in my view, some can make listening so irritating that turning off completely is the only option (nothing else but R3 appealedto me), but I'm not so wedded to any of the crew - brilliant, appealing, warm, friendly, much loved, or any other of the epithets the BBC habitually uses - that would make ruined programmes worth listening to.

            If you're talking about the presenter, the programme is a write-off (because a good presenter shouldn't attract attention at all (in my view).
            Last edited by french frank; 05-02-23, 13:55. Reason: Forgot the favourite 'much loved'
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • underthecountertenor
              Full Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1586

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Not having anything to contribute about the latest recruit, I will just offer the thought of how 'important' presenters are: in my view, some can make listening so irritating that turning off completely is the only option (nothing else but R3 appealedto me), but I'm not so wedded to any of the crew - brilliant, appealing, warm, friendly, much loved, or any other of the epithets the BBC habitually uses - that would make ruined programmes worth listening to.

              If you're talking about the presenter, the programme is a write-off (because a good presenter shouldn't attract attention at all (in my view).
              In this context, it’s perhaps worth mentioning that the presenter now under discussion at one point launched into a reminiscence about her mother and a record player which I have to say struck me as pretty banal. Others no doubt found it warm, friendly, appealing etc. What is not in doubt, I think, is that it was a case of the presenter drawing attention to herself!

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              • kernelbogey
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5848

                Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                In this context, it’s perhaps worth mentioning that the presenter now under discussion at one point launched into a reminiscence about her mother and a record player which I have to say struck me as pretty banal. Others no doubt found it warm, friendly, appealing etc. What is not in doubt, I think, is that it was a case of the presenter drawing attention to herself!
                I began to curl my toes, admittedly, at this anecdote: but I think it supports the idea that this was her way, at short notice, of introducing music which (I guess) she had had no role in choosing: and there was no musical commentary that I can recall.

                As I have written, she was an improvement on the usual Saturday show.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30666

                  Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                  I began to curl my toes, admittedly, at this anecdote: but I think it supports the idea that this was her way, at short notice, of introducing music which (I guess) she had had no role in choosing: and there was no musical commentary that I can recall.

                  As I have written, she was an improvement on the usual Saturday show.
                  Yes, it's rather sad that a lot of the criticised presenters are unwittingly, and in one way or the other, hapless victims thrown to the lions. But lions are human beings too (some of them)
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20582

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    But lions are human beings too (some of them)
                    Only the one in The Wizard of Oz.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30666

                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Only the one in The Wizard of Oz.
                      Bert Lahr was his name. But I had in mind some of the savaging lions posting here!
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • muzzer
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 1196

                        Originally posted by underthecountertenor View Post
                        But her pronunciation of French and other languages was pretty execrable.
                        DJ was on news reading duty but surely she’d have gladly stepped in at no notice? And her pronunciation is spot on.

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26606

                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          Shari Vahl has a lovely voice and presentation style.
                          Along with kernelb, I agree - an ideal voice for radio and a very welcome addition to the roster. I made an exception to the rule and downloaded the Saturday morning programme for a listen. I’d love to hear her do some announcing / presenting free of the gimmicky Saturday a.m. elements.

                          (Btw I wasn’t particularly put out by her French pronunciation - it sounded like an honest British stab at it - although the Trenet song gives an easy masterclass in how to pronounce «nationale» which could have helped prevent “nash-o-nall”… )
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
                            Full Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 7149

                            Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                            Along with kernelb, I agree - an ideal voice for radio and a very welcome addition to the roster. I made an exception to the rule and downloaded the Saturday morning programme for a listen. I’d love to hear her do some announcing / presenting free of the gimmicky Saturday a.m. elements.

                            (Btw I wasn’t particularly put out by her French pronunciation - it sounded like an honest British stab at it - although the Trenet song gives an easy masterclass in how to pronounce «nationale» which could have helped prevent “nash-o-nall”… )
                            They played that Trenet song on Essential Classics this morning . His diction is so perfect I could almost translate it simultaneously. Just wish the actors on Dix Pour Cent could follow his example. And stop saying pute and genial every other sentence.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 38016

                              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
                              Along with kernelb, I agree - an ideal voice for radio and a very welcome addition to the roster. I made an exception to the rule and downloaded the Saturday morning programme for a listen. I’d love to hear her do some announcing / presenting free of the gimmicky Saturday a.m. elements.

                              (Btw I wasn’t particularly put out by her French pronunciation - it sounded like an honest British stab at it - although the Trenet song gives an easy masterclass in how to pronounce «nationale» which could have helped prevent “nash-o-nall”… )
                              I can see your rationale.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30666

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                I can see your rationale.
                                Well, there's a thing. I'd always vaguely thought it must exist in French but it seems it doesn't. Rationale is directly from Latin and the final e was originally pronounced. So it's an English word, hence the pronunciation???
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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