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  • Stanfordian
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 9329

    Ancestry DNA

    I've just had my Ancestry DNA results:

    My ethnicity estimate is:
    96.3% - English
    3.7% - Irish, Scotland, Wales

    Surely this must be record. But I've got to go now as grandma Boudica is calling me.
  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #2
    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
    I've just had my Ancestry DNA results:

    My ethnicity estimate is:
    96.3% - English
    3.7% - Irish, Scotland, Wales

    Surely this must be record. But I've got to go now as grandma Boudica is calling me.
    My cousin had a DNA test done 4 years ago. I don't know the detail, but I'll ask him when he gets out next year (you'd think 90° boil wash heavily soiled whites gets everything out, but it doesn't)

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    • vinteuil
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12955

      #3
      Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
      I've just had my Ancestry DNA results:
      ... there was an interesting Radio 4 science thingy recently (Adam Rutherford?) about these - and how deceptive they are. People think they are about ancestry - but it ain't so. They compare current DNA samples with other current DNA samples (from, eg, Scandinavia, Ethiopia, Fiji...). So - (a) - it largely depends on what other samples they have for comparison purposes, and (b) it in no way shows any ancestry - they are comparing your DNA with contemporaneous DNA, not with any historic 'ancestral' DNA.





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      Last edited by vinteuil; 14-01-19, 15:46.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #4
        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        My cousin had a DNA test done 4 years ago. I don't know the detail, but I'll ask him when he gets out next year (you'd think 90° boil wash heavily soiled whites gets everything out, but it doesn't)
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Stanfordian
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 9329

          #5
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... there was an interesting Radio 4 science thingy recently (Adam Rutherford?) about these - and how deceptive they are. People think they are about ancestry - but it ain't so. They compare current DNA samples with other current DNA samples (from, eg, Scandinavia, Ethiopia, Fiji...). So - (a) - it largely depends on what other samples they have for comparison purposes, and (b) it in no way shows any ancestry - they are comparing your DNA with contemporaneous DNA, not with any historic 'ancestral' DNA.





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          I heard the programme 'The Viking Code' which prompted my interest. 'Ancestry DNA' is the name of the company who did the testing. I've shown the result titled 'ethnicity estimate' which despite its limitations I still find an interesting exercise.
          Last edited by Stanfordian; 14-01-19, 16:43.

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          • Pianorak
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3128

            #6
            Can't believe anything these days.
            One of my foster dog's vax certificate stated: Staffie (SBT). Puzzled and intrigued I decided to have a DNA test done for her: Level 1 Not Present; level 2: Bull terrier; level 3: Patterdale & Whippet; level 4: SBT; Level 5: Border Collie & Labrador Retriever. Mongrel sounds about right. Mind you, she was none the worse for that.
            My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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            • oddoneout
              Full Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 9308

              #7
              Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
              Can't believe anything these days.
              One of my foster dog's vax certificate stated: Staffie (SBT). Puzzled and intrigued I decided to have a DNA test done for her: Level 1 Not Present; level 2: Bull terrier; level 3: Patterdale & Whippet; level 4: SBT; Level 5: Border Collie & Labrador Retriever. Mongrel sounds about right. Mind you, she was none the worse for that.
              Well as a working dog that mix would seem to cover most eventualities - some more legal than others....

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30510

                #8
                Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                My ethnicity estimate is:
                96.3% - English
                3.7% - Irish, Scotland, Wales

                Surely this must be record. But I've got to go now as grandma Boudica is calling me.
                Athough Boudica wasn't English, was she - she was 'Celtic British' .
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #9
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  Athough Boudica wasn't English, was she - she was 'Celtic British' .
                  Perhaps Stanf's grandma was in the 3.7% side of the family?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30510

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Perhaps Stanf's grandma was in the 3.7% side of the family?
                    Yes, there is that, isn't there? Mind you, only 5% of the English DNA seems to come from the Anglo-Saxon invasions; the rest pre-dates the south western European hunter gatherers. So I reckon Stan contributes most of that 5% 'English' on his own.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Stanfordian
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9329

                      #11
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Athough Boudica wasn't English, was she - she was 'Celtic British' .
                      Queen Boudica of the Iceni (in Norfolk) was active in Britannia, which is good enough for me, evidently in Colchester, St Albans, London.
                      Last edited by Stanfordian; 14-01-19, 20:15.

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        My cousin had a DNA test done 4 years ago. I don't know the detail, but I'll ask him when he gets out next year (you'd think 90° boil wash heavily soiled whites gets everything out, but it doesn't)
                        + 1

                        Sir Walter Bodmer a pioneer in this area - I came across him via my doctor great aunt (d. 1995) who knew him.

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                        • Stanfordian
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9329

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                          + 1

                          Sir Walter Bodmer a pioneer in this area - I came across him via my doctor great aunt (d. 1995) who knew him.
                          That's nice of you Richard to balance your piss-take with a serious point. I'm not surprised by the piss-take from Beef Oven (was it a slur) but didn't expect it from the hosts. So thank you French Frank, Richard Tarleton and ferneyhoughgeliebte.

                          I was quite excited to have received my unexpected results and just thought board members might be interested but I was mistaken.

                          That's the last contribution of mine on this forum.
                          Last edited by Stanfordian; 14-01-19, 20:35.

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Oh for goodness' sake - those responses were only in the same vein as your OP's concluding comment about Boudica! (Who wasn't English, as frenchie was pointing out - nobody was English in these islands until the Fifth Century.)
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                              That's nice of you Richard to balance your piss-take with a serious point. I'm not surprised by the piss-take from Beef Oven (was it a slur) but didn't expect it from the hosts. So thank you French Frank, Richard Tarleton and ferneyhoughgeliebte.

                              I was quite excited to have received my unexpected results and just thought board members might be interested but I was mistaken.

                              That's the last contribution of mine on this forum.
                              Stan, I'm speechless - I was reacting appeciatively to a good joke from Beef, which I didn't think was anything other than good-natured, certainly not a piss-take.

                              I was actually more interested in responding to vint's comment - Sir Walter being an FRS, I take the science very seriously. As it happens I've just finished uploading my entire family tree to a genealogical website - they offer DNA testing. Looking at my family tree I'm not sure it would hold many surprises. Lots of English, Highland Scots, Welsh, with a French Canadian great grandmother in the mix. Though, my 9x great grandfather (who was born near Bridport) was had up in front of the settler court in Plymouth, Massachusetts, in 1642 for "lending a gun to an Indian", so it would be a route to finding out if his fraternising went any further.

                              Please reconsider in the light of day. You misjudge us.

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