BBC Sounds

[antongould]

.....I thought it was just me and my grumpy, age driven selectivity.

Probably .....

[Bryn]

I note that the Beeb is now trying to get one to sign in as soon as one accesses the BBC Sounds pages. Actually, if you do not wish to sign in to check the schedule, you do not need to. Just proceed to the schedule via the 'buttons' towards the upper right of the main "Sounds" page. One can also still 'get_' programmes from the iPlayer without signing in.

[cloughie]

Probably .....

No it’s not - there’s at least two of us - see LMcD #44!

[Serial_Apologist]

No it’s not - there’s at least two of us - see LMcD #44!

Make that 3. I used to feel some guilt that the largish collection of cassettes, LPs and CDs built up courtesy in large part of Radio 3's educative role in my earlier life, has been of benefit to those of my generation, especially - my parents and their contemporaries didn't have it so good; however now I'm beginning to feel that if the youth generation (for which Anton appears to be setting himself up as some sort of Pied Piper champion (unless he's just teasing us of course)) is to fall blindly for online stations pick'n'mix availability uninformed by any sense of historical inclusivity, context or continuity, then they're welcome to it, and the devil can take the hindmost - because that is what will happen, and appears so to be the case.

[french frank]

Oi! What about me? Make that 4. Radio 3 creates bad vibes for me, in the way it has long done for those who have never listened to it but just know it's all rubbish (except possibly Late Junction).

Make that 3. I used to feel some guilt that the largish collection of cassettes, LPs and CDs built up courtesy in large part of Radio 3's educative role in my earlier life, has been of benefit to those of my generation, especially - my parents and their contemporaries didn't have it so good; however now I'm beginning to feel that if the youth generation (for which Anton appears to be setting himself up as some sort of Pied Piper champion (unless he's just teasing us of course)) is to fall blindly for online stations pick'n'mix availability uninformed by any sense of historical inclusivity, context or continuity, then they're welcome to it, and the devil can take the hindmost - because that is what will happen, and appears so to be the case.

[antongould]

Make that 3. I used to feel some guilt that the largish collection of cassettes, LPs and CDs built up courtesy in large part of Radio 3's educative role in my earlier life, has been of benefit to those of my generation, especially - my parents and their contemporaries didn't have it so good; however now I'm beginning to feel that if the youth generation (for which Anton appears to be setting himself up as some sort of Pied Piper champion (unless he's just teasing us of course)) is to fall blindly for online stations pick'n'mix availability uninformed by any sense of historical inclusivity, context or continuity, then they're welcome to it, and the devil can take the hindmost - because that is what will happen, and appears so to be the case.

I'm not teasing S_A nor am I anywhere near Hamelin ....... I simply was, like Rumpole, trying to ensure that the features I treasure in the Radio App were still available in BBC Sounds. They are - so I am at peace, at least now I have worked out how to delete a download.
On the Radio 3 is not a radio station claim - I am with Gurnemanz in post #45, R3 is IMVVHO still a radio station - was there ever a station where people loved every minute of its output ..... ????
As to my bit of fun with cloughers I seem to have started a bit of a referendum ...... with, as ever, Leave winning ......

[french frank]

On the Radio 3 is not a radio station claim …

Did anyone suggest that Radio 3 was not a radio station? I said the Radio 3 presenter mixtapes weren't what I wanted ("I want: index with name of composer > title of work > where to find it.") Gongers said that wasn't a radio station, and I absolutely agreed. I just said Radio 3 was not a radio station that appealed to me (nor are CFM, Radio 1, Radio 2 …).

I used to find the early morning (breakfast) programme lighter listening and after that the mornings were more searching and critical: they're not any more. They're now directed at the "CFM audience which can't stand CFM".

[antongould]

More or less. It's absolutely not a radio station, but there isn't a radio station that appeals to me. Any more.

ff this is what I read, although I admit, in isolation ...... apologies .......

[french frank]

ff this is what I read, although I admit, in isolation ...... apologies .......

Accepted To be clear "index with name of composer > title of work > where to find it" is 'not a radio station'. Though on the issue of "customisation" which the BBC is so anxious to provide us all with: I think I'm the best one to decide what I, personally, want, not the BBC, Radio 3, or well-meaning presenters. Not that I think that no one could direct me towards things I might like; they just don't seem to work for Radio 3 any more

[antongould]

Accepted To be clear "index with name of composer > title of work > where to find it" is 'not a radio station'. Though on the issue of "customisation" which the BBC is so anxious to provide us all with: I think I'm the best one to decide what I, personally, want, not the BBC, Radio 3, or well-meaning presenters. Not that I think that no one could direct me towards things I might like; they just don't seem to work for Radio 3 any more

you should listen to Skellers and let him and his Skellettes guide you with their playlist feature ..... Runs for coat and tin hat .....

[french frank]

you should listen to Skellers and let him and his Skellettes guide you with their playlist feature ..... Runs for coat and tin hat .....

This is the exact opposite of 'customisation': it's recommending things, indiscriminately, to the entire audience. And that's regardless of whether it's IS, SK, PT or, heaven help us, KD doing the 'recommending'. It presupposes a homogeneous audience who either have the identical tastes or, more likely, no tastes at all because they don't have much experience of classical music. Anything that smacks of 'recommendation' or 'trusted guides' is deeply patronising. "in the context of Dvořák's music, this piece is interesting (because …), not often performed, has seldom been recorded, hasn't been played on Radio 3 since 1967 &c &c …". That seems to me to be a more intelligent approach than, "My recommendation for you today is one of Dvořák's Slavonic Dances".

[Lat-Literal]

I have heard the word "podcast" from people in the media on perhaps a thousand occasions. Never have I heard the word "podcast" in ordinary everyday conversation. While I accept that my exchanges with the under 30s are generally with sales staff, it isn't as if it doesn't wildly meander and sometimes I am not the one initiating it. The little love with antlers on in Tescos who is a genuine credit to her generation - yes, I'm turning rapidly into my grandfather, born, 1903 - was especially engaging on Halloween this evening along with other topics but never once did she mention podcasts. I feel that this of itself is a clear sign that her stay at the till will be temporary and that she is soon on her way to very much better things.

We agreed incidentally that it has now gone beyond the "it is too American" critique and given life is short and often miserable, good luck to those who want pretty lights and dressing up between summer and Xmas...…I am especially thrilled that amidst the delightful candles in pumpkins, there are so many gigantic spiders with smiley faces in local gardens this year.

Eras come and eras go......John Moore, James Purnell, you name it......transient; here today, gone tomorrow......the world is littered with them.

Here was another : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln3SpXXYTHY

[cloughie]

you should listen to Skellers and let him and his Skellettes guide you with their playlist feature ..... Runs for coat and tin hat .....

Hey Anton are you his agent?

[LMcD]

When I click on 'BBC iPlayer' on my PC, I then seem to have a choice between 'iPlayer' for TV and 'Sounds' for radio. Is this going to change, or is to remain that simple?

[Bryn]

When I click on 'BBC iPlayer' on my PC, I then seem to have a choice between 'iPlayer' for TV and 'Sounds' for radio. Is this going to change, or is to remain that simple?

Not a question likely to be answerable here. The situation is clearly confusing Radio 3 presenters. Many continue to refer us to the iPlayer radio, which supposedly no longer exists, at least with that neme. The left hand does not appear to be communicating with the right, effectively.