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  • amateur51

    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
    Or is the ultimate sin in your strange morality to be a media baron whose views you disagree with?
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    You just don't get it, do you Mr Pee? It's not a question of disagreeing with Murdoch's views, is it? What about his actions? His corruption of the police? His corruption of politicians and our body politic? We crow about the value of a free press and after Murdoch's malign influence & practice, this has to be re-defined. And why has he done this? Just for the sake of selling more newsapapers, getting more people to watch Formula-bl**dy-One in HD

    I've read some nonsense on these boards over the years, but rarely anything as offensive as your postings on this thread
    Oh don't run yourself down, Mr Pee - you are an exponent of offensive postings par excellence

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    • amateur51

      Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
      Has our 'raison d'ĂȘtre' on this Forum now seemingly coming to an end as we appear to be increasingly in accord with each other these days, amateur ... ?

      Never mind, it cannot possibly last ...


      I have complete confidence in your capacity to manage this situation, Rebekah .. .. mmm scotty

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      • johnb
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 2903

        Two points:

        1) A few days ago News Corp hired the PR specialists Edelman, since when there has been a wholesale change in Murdoch's approach to the crisis. Coincidence?

        2) Posts which include personal insults or attacks on other contributors should have no place in this forum.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30509

          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
          You just don't get it, do you Mr Pee? It's not a question of disagreeing with Murdoch's views, is it? What about his actions? His corruption of the police? His corruption of politicians and our body politic? We crow about the value of a free press and after Murdoch's malign influence & practice, this has to be re-defined. And why has he done this? Just for the sake of selling more newsapapers, getting more people to watch Formula-bl**dy-One in HD
          I agree with Mr Pee - in a way . Except that I take Mandryka's stated desire to eliminate the entire family (including those not in any way involved, though excluding his 102-year-old mother) as hyperbolic. I am against the death penalty and make no exception for R & J Murdoch, though I accept that Mandryka may have a little list with a number of names on it ....
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Mandryka

            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
            If you genuinely stand by those comments, then I am disgusted. I take it that you are also in favour of the death penalty for terrorists, paedophiles, and serial killers? Or is the ultimate sin in your strange morality to be a media baron whose views you disagree with?

            I've read some nonsense on these boards over the years, but rarely anything as offensive as your postings on this thread.
            Sorry that you're disgusted, but I don't think you've read my post properly: it's not because I disagree with Murdoch's views that I am advocating his elimination - it's because he is bent on acquiring political power and establishing a ruling dynasty that will subvert democracy. I should hate to live in a world that resembled that of Dennis Potter's Cold Lazarus, which is what Murdoch would seem to be aiming for.

            And I DO advocate the death penalty for all the offenders you list.

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            • Mr Pee
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3285

              You just don't get it, do you Mr Pee? It's not a question of disagreeing with Murdoch's views, is it? What about his actions? His corruption of the police? His corruption of politicians and our body politic? We crow about the value of a free press and after Murdoch's malign influence & practice, this has to be re-defined. And why has he done this? Just for the sake of selling more newsapapers, getting more people to watch Formula-bl**dy-One in HD :doh
              No, amateur, YOU are the one who "doesn't get it". This from Mandrykas' latest diatribe:-

              Surely it's blindingly obvious to any government in the western world that Murdoch ultimately is aiming to create a dynaty that will dictate the politics of the developed world? He's not on anyone's side but his own. As such, he and his organisation need to be destroyed. Ever heard people speaking wistfully of how 'they' could have stopped Hitler in 1933? Well, we're a long way from our own 1933, but the point holds....
              No mention there of phone hacking, just some paranoid left-wing fantasy about global domination, and a laughable comparison to Adolf Hitler. Actually, laughable is the wrong word. I doubt that any surviving victims of Nazism, or the families of those who didn't make it, would find it remotely amusing. If anybody's the Nazi here, it's Mandryka, for suggesting that the Murdoch clan be executed.

              ( I honestly can't believe I've just written that, but it is what is being proposed.)

              The fact that such drivel as Mandryka's can be posted here and be taken remotely seriously makes me despair, it really does.

              Oh don't run yourself down, Mr Pee - you are an exponent of offensive postings par excellence
              Well, since I've moved to these new boards I have tried to avoid "offensive" postings, by which I take it you mean postings that diverge from your narrow political view. But in the light of the hatred and idiocy that's been displayed on this thread I am wondering why I bothered.

              And for your information, not that it will make any difference, the HD F1 feed is provided by the BBC, not Sky.
              Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

              Mark Twain.

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              • johnb
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 2903

                This thread seems to have been taken over by the lunatic fringe and is no longer making a useful contribution.

                IMO it is time to close this thread.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30509

                  Originally posted by johnb View Post
                  This thread seems to have been taken over by the lunatic fringe and is no longer making a useful contribution.

                  IMO it is time to close this thread.
                  I will seriously consider it unless it gets back on topic.

                  Mr Pee: When you say 'The fact that such drivel as Mandryka's can be posted here and be taken remotely seriously makes me despair, it really does', my view is that you and Mandryka are the only ones to take seriously his views on the summary execution of various kinds of social and political undesirables.

                  I think I'm not alone in hoping that line of discussion will be discontinued.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Mandryka

                    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                    No, amateur, YOU are the one who "doesn't get it". This from Mandrykas' latest diatribe:-



                    No mention there of phone hacking, just some paranoid left-wing fantasy about global domination, and a laughable comparison to Adolf Hitler. Actually, laughable is the wrong word. I doubt that any surviving victims of Nazism, or the families of those who didn't make it, would find it remotely amusing. If anybody's the Nazi here, it's Mandryka, for suggesting that the Murdoch clan be executed.

                    ( I honestly can't believe I've just written that, but it is what is being proposed.)

                    The fact that such drivel as Mandryka's can be posted here and be taken remotely seriously makes me despair, it really does.



                    Well, since I've moved to these new boards I have tried to avoid "offensive" postings, by which I take it you mean postings that diverge from your narrow political view. But in the light of the hatred and idiocy that's been displayed on this thread I am wondering why I bothered.

                    And for your information, not that it will make any difference, the HD F1 feed is provided by the BBC, not Sky.
                    I've been called some things in my time, but 'left wing' is a new one.....

                    And I wasn't personally comparing Murdoch to Hitler, merely the parallels between the situation that existed in 1933 and the one that exists now.

                    I could make a case, though, for Murdoch being worse than Hitler, who tended to operate in the open and had relatively modest ambitions (he was only looking to take over a mere continent) and so was easier to defeat. Murdoch operates covertly but is aiming considerably higher, I'd say.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30509

                      I'm closing this thread for the moment.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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