Shreddies

[Dave2002]

What happens next?

[french frank]

What happens next?

Are we talking about Banksy?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I prefer Alpen.

[Dave2002]

Are we talking about Banksy?

Banksy posts video of £1m painting shredding stunt at Sotheby's http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45770028

[gradus]

Doubling in price of shredded image and great acclaim by critics - further proof if any were needed of the genius of Banksy.

[MrGongGong]

Doubling in price of shredded image and great acclaim by critics - further proof if any were needed of the genius of Banksy.

"Genuis" ?
I don't think so
Derivative and cliche-ridden more like

But I guess the idea that destruction can be part of artmaking is news to people who have no knowledge of 20th Century art history

[Bryn]

"Genuis" ?
I don't think so
Derivative and cliche-ridden more like

But I guess the idea that destruction can be part of artmaking is news to people who have no knowledge of 20th Century art history

The shreds should have been made self-igniting, too.

[gradus]

"Genuis" ?
I don't think so
Derivative and cliche-ridden more like

But I guess the idea that destruction can be part of artmaking is news to people who have no knowledge of 20th Century art history

I bow to your learning.

[french frank]

"Genuis" ?
I don't think so
Derivative and cliche-ridden more like

But I guess the idea that destruction can be part of artmaking is news to people who have no knowledge of 20th Century art history

I think that's a bit sour. Even adapting a basic idea to a modern context requires some original thought. Yes, there's the showmanship of creating something to occur in public at a particular moment, but I'm not sure that it's 'the idea that destruction can be part of artmaking'. Isn't it a statement about his work being sold for a million pounds and the 'value of art' (and if it went to auction it would be likely to fetch a large sum). Is that a valid way to spend such a large sum of money?

Banksy is far more about social comment than making a statement about 'art' and 'artmaking'.

[ardcarp]

I'm always wary when artists have to say a lot about their work. At least Banksy doesn't say much, though destruction can hardly qualify as creativity.....

[Bryn]

I'm always wary when artists have to say a lot about their work. At least Banksy doesn't say much, though destruction can hardly qualify as creativity.....

Shades of Schumpeter in art?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

So next time I play at a wedding, having charged (and been paid) a large amount, is it OK for me to destroy the performance and called it the Emperor's New Tune?

[MrGongGong]

I think that's a bit sour. Even adapting a basic idea to a modern context requires some original thought. Yes, there's the showmanship of creating something to occur in public at a particular moment, but I'm not sure that it's 'the idea that destruction can be part of artmaking'. Isn't it a statement about his work being sold for a million pounds and the 'value of art' (and if it went to auction it would be likely to fetch a large sum). Is that a valid way to spend such a large sum of money?

Banksy is far more about social comment than making a statement about 'art' and 'artmaking'.

Ok it probably was a bit "sour" and it's a clever use of technology
but if his comment was about the daft "art market" and how the value of objects is dependent on context he is, (compared to Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty who really did burn £1,000,000) a bit of a novice.
The shredded paper is much more valuable than the "original" anyway. Which , to me, seems rather obvious.

And doesn't it just play into the tedious ENC narrative of contemporary art being some kind of "scam"? (new clothes and all that)

[MrGongGong]

though destruction can hardly qualify as creativity.....

OOOOOOOOO yes it can

[vinteuil]

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... the great precedent perhaps Bartlebooth in Perec's Life: A User's Manual -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life:_A_User%27s_Manual

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