Fashion, design, beauty and asethetics

[Lat-Literal]

Yep, you can see the sea. You need someone meaningful to make that fantastic, Otherwise, no. Surely, you have to look away from peoole themselves. Most of us drag it all down.

I couldn't see any beauty beyond personality and that's rare - god forbid flesh and bone - the arrogance in that sort of oppression is so childish : authority is merely teens plus power.

[Shane radcliffe]

It's style that counts, people, not fashion...!

Like it.

[ardcarp]

But isn't style a sub-set of fashion? Discuss.

[Richard Tarleton]

But isn't style a sub-set of fashion? Discuss.

The reverse, if anything, I'd have thought. Style - a way of doing things - for example.....

Fashion - merely the preferred way of doing things at a particular moment - more ephemeral....

[ardcarp]

But a GCSE candidate might write (about the Classical era) "the Baroque Style went out of fashion". I suppose the fact is both 'style' and 'fashion' share a semantic element.

I'm off to Pedants' Corner.

[jayne lee wilson]

"Fashion is ephemeral but style is eternal" was the original Coco Chanel quote....

More recently Karl Lagerfeld (ultrastylish, never short of a sharp word and a cat lover too ) offered this variation:

"Fashion is ephemeral, dangerous and unfair".

....doubtless with the sweatshop/fastfashion/Primark etc chain of supply & demand in mind, but it has wider implications of course...

[Richard Tarleton]

Thanks for the quotes jayne - I don't think I knew the coco one....though the thread may have awakened a subconscious memory. My great grandfather was an artist in the William Morris tradition, trained by a pupil of his.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

"Style" is the individual way one uses fashion(s) - selecting from those of the past, the present, and those yet to come - isn't it?

[ardcarp]

Aesthetics is in the title post too....another can of worms? Ugh. Doesn't sound very 'nice'.

[Bryn]

"Fashion is ephemeral but style is eternal" was the original Coco Chanel quote....

More recently Karl Lagerfeld (ultrastylish, never short of a sharp word and a cat lover too ) offered this variation:

"Fashion is ephemeral, dangerous and unfair".

....doubtless with the sweatshop/fastfashion/Primark etc chain of supply & demand in mind, but it has wider implications of course...

I think Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills's original quote has greater vitality. There's little sincerity in either fashion or style, especially when waxed lyrical over.

[vinteuil]

I think Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills's original quote has greater vitality. There's little sincerity in either fashion or style, especially when waxed lyrical over.

... and of course only a Frenchman could have come up with - «le style c'est l'homme même... »



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[jayne lee wilson]

I think Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills's original quote has greater vitality. There's little sincerity in either fashion or style, especially when waxed lyrical over.

Mr. Wilde has many lines on the subject, e.g. -

"“Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not.”...
Or
“You can never be overdressed or overeducated.”

Which did you have in mind...?

AS someone who once followed fashion, bought lots of clothes etc., and now don't except where necessity compels, style is something I put together from a few decades worth of cast-offs, really.... which currently means wearing all-black much of the time, with adjustments for warmer weather....

Wait long enough, a past purchase goes from dated to reasonably contemporary or even classic.... just took at trends in jeans...

[Bryn]

Mr. Wilde has many lines on the subject, e.g. -

"“Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not.”...
Or
“You can never be overdressed or overeducated.”

Which did you have in [SIZE=3][FONT=proxima-nova][COLOR=#262728]mind...? . . .

“In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing.” Hence the wax reference.

[jayne lee wilson]

“In matters of grave importance, style, not sincerity, is the vital thing.” Hence the wax reference.

I guess it comes down to whether you see fashion or style as a matter of grave importance, really....

I think many people care more about how they look than they would like to admit...

[ardcarp]

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”