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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 38015

    #16
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    The rest of London is not a city (apart from Westminster).
    Not Southwark - which has its own cathedral - and a mediaeval cathedral at that? As a resident, I'm quite miffed.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30666

      #17
      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
      That assumes you rate the size of a city on its population, rather than its land area, of course.
      Yes, by land area the largest is, apparently, the City of Carlisle …
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Lat-Literal
        Guest
        • Aug 2015
        • 6983

        #18
        The City of Jamestown, Saint Helena has a population of 630. Rochester has too fine a cathedral to have lost its city status in "Medway". All places with a Minster should become cities. Wales looks lopsided in terms of population centres as cities. This should be addressed by a new City of Wrexham. Scotland could increase its number of cities considerably simply by making every place of High Kirk informally known as "cathedrals" a city. It would also provide an element of idiosyncrasy north of the border. I fully recognise that having a cathedral doesn't equate to being a city and that is something of a pity. Anyhow, Chester FC was founded in 1885 and didn't change its name to Chester City FC until 1983. Following financial irregularities, it was disbanded in 2010. The name of the replacement team is the old name, Chester FC. How lucky they were not to have had to choose something unrelated to their history. But what other football clubs don't take advantage of their area's city status? That is a quiz question to which I have no very quick answer. However, Stirling Albion FC is one.

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        • greenilex
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1626

          #19
          Thought Her Maj had something to do with the appellation?

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #20
            Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
            All places with a Minster should become cities.:
            Really ?

            Welcome to the Minster Church of St Mary, Stow in Lindsey, the Stow Group of Churches and the Friends of Stow Minster.


            Doesn't even have a corner shop
            and the bus is once an hour until 6:30, no bus on a Sunday

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30666

              #21
              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
              But what other football clubs don't take advantage of their area's city status?
              Bristol Rovers?
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • jean
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7100

                #22
                Liverpool?

                And only one Manchester team could do it.

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                • CallMePaul
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 809

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  Liverpool?
                  Liverpool City was the name of a long-defunct Rugby League club in the 1950s and60s. It played under a number of other names, including Wigan Highfield, London Highfield, Huyton and Runcorn Highfield. Never a successful club, it led a somewhat peripatetic existence and ended its days simply as Highfield, playing on the outskirts of Warrington.

                  Returning to the round ball game, why is Brechin City so called? Although it has a medieval cathedral (been there, done that, no t-shirts on sale), Brechin has never had city status.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30666

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                    Returning to the round ball game, why is Brechin City so called?
                    I suppose it goes back to the time when it was a royal burgh and the definition of 'city' hadn't been clearly set out?

                    Portsmouth.
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Sir Velo
                      Full Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3288

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                      But what other football clubs don't take advantage of their area's city status?

                      A great many. Of the historic cathedral cities: Carlisle; Peterborough; Hereford. Among the 19th century newcomers: Leeds; Sheffield; Newcastle; Nottingham; Plymouth.

                      Many English clubs were formed from the uniting of several discrete clubs in their locality; others from an area which they represented.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20582

                        #26
                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        Yes, by land area the largest is, apparently, the City of Carlisle …
                        And Honolulu is the largest city in the world.

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                        • subcontrabass
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2780

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jean View Post

                          And only one Manchester team could do it.
                          There is only one professional football team playing in the city of Manchester. Manchester United moved out in 1910.

                          (irrelevant quiz question: What does "United" stand for in the name of Manchester United Football Club?)

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30666

                            #28
                            Pore ol' Swindon has been applying for years to be granted city status. I thought it succeeded a few years ago, in which case Swindon Town FC would have been truly violet-like modesty. (But its applications have all failed - might have known .)
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Stanfordian
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 9346

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                              A great many. Of the historic cathedral cities: Carlisle; Peterborough; Hereford. Among the 19th century newcomers: Leeds; Sheffield; Newcastle; Nottingham; Plymouth.

                              Many English clubs were formed from the uniting of several discrete clubs in their locality; others from an area which they represented.
                              Preston too; if it has not been said already.

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                              • Lat-Literal
                                Guest
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6983

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                Really ?

                                Welcome to the Minster Church of St Mary, Stow in Lindsey, the Stow Group of Churches and the Friends of Stow Minster.


                                Doesn't even have a corner shop
                                and the bus is once an hour until 6:30, no bus on a Sunday
                                Oh yes.

                                St Davids is very similar.

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