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  • Conchis
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    • Jun 2014
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    #61
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    I think you will find that is by the "genius" that is St Paul

    Is there any way I can un-know this ?
    I actually like the song: it has happy memories! :)

    And I think McCartney is often despised for the wrong reasons: I'm not keen on his glad-handing persona but I think it takes talent to be able to write for several different audiences. Ob La Di, Yellow Submarine and that wretched Frog Chorus were written for chilldren and children tend to like them. People who come out with the line, 'How can the man who wrote Eleanor Rigby and Let It Be come out with crap like that?' are surely missing the point.....

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    • Richard Tarleton

      #62
      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      .

      ... if I were to do a 'biographical' Desert Island Discs it might include -

      Dowland : Fine Knacks For Ladies - in my childhood, relentlessly played on the lute by my father.
      My intro to Dowland too - singing it (with others) in an inter-school singing contest aged about 11 . My real love of Dowland began about 4 years later with the Fantasia P1, on the first guitar LP I bought...I can play that in my head.....

      I think I'd crave intimacy and the human voice, hence, only semi-autobiographically:

      Schubert, Nacht und Träume - Ann Murray, Graham Johnson (sublime)
      Strauss, Four Last Songs - Gundula Janowitz, BPO/Karajan
      Bach D Minor Violin Partita - Rachel Podger (the Chaconne first encountered 50 years ago on the guitar)
      Beethoven - String Quartet Op 131 (like Anton, I'd probably go for the Italians in the end)
      Bach 6th Cello Suite - the first version I ever heard, on a wet night in Plymouth in 1971, was the Janos Starker - I was transfixed. I'll take that for old times sake.
      Dvorak Cello Concerto - Alisa Weilerstein, Czech PO/Jiří Bělohlávek (first heard the work in Oxford in late 60s, fell deeply in love with it)
      Bruckner 7th symphony - VPO/Karajan (a record of this, in fact the Klemperer, was my intro to Bruckner, again in Oxford in the late 60s - no going back from that. I had a ticket to see Klemperer conduct it, he cancelled through illness)
      Bob Dylan Desolation Row - Dylan holds a special place in my life, this song reminds me of a particular turning point.

      Book - Cold Comfort Farm, Stella Gibbons
      Luxury - a pair of binoculars, to compile the island's avifauna

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      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #63
        With my contribution, I found it difficult to decided what to put on. I tried my best to keep to works that influenced my life. certainly, at prep school, we had a very good Director Music. He was really good about enthusing classical music. He played Respighi's Pini di roma. This will always be in my mind. As we were told to close our eyes and think what we thought what was happening. He of course played Pines of the Appian Way.
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          #64
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          Dowland : Fine Knacks For Ladies - in my childhood, relentlessly played on the lute by my father
          That would be my first autobigraphical one, too - a 78 of Alfred Deller with Desmond Dupre, relentlessly played - but not, sadly, in person.

          Then, also from my childhood, there might be:

          HANDEL: The Trumpet Shall Sound (from Messiah) - This was the bit where I would wake up during those interminable performances by my father's choir and know we were near the end. Though that wasn't the only reason I liked it.

          I'm working on the rest.

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          • subcontrabass
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2780

            #65
            Originally posted by jean View Post

            HANDEL: The Trumpet Shall Sound (from Messiah) - This was the bit where I would wake up during those interminable performances by my father's choir and know we were near the end. Though that wasn't the only reason I liked it.
            Was that with or without the Da Capo?

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37636

              #66
              Originally posted by subcontrabass View Post
              Was that with or without the Da Capo?
              Only after he became a film star.

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #67
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Only after he became a film star.
                Could be Leonardo di Capo!
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • LMcD
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 8426

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  Only after he became a film star.
                  Wasn't he Da Capo from the beginning?

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                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                    I actually like the song: it has happy memories! :)

                    And I think McCartney is often despised for the wrong reasons: I'm not keen on his glad-handing persona but I think it takes talent to be able to write for several different audiences. Ob La Di, Yellow Submarine and that wretched Frog Chorus were written for chilldren and children tend to like them. People who come out with the line, 'How can the man who wrote Eleanor Rigby and Let It Be come out with crap like that?' are surely missing the point.....
                    I'm sure it does bring back happy memories

                    BUT I'm not sure that you are right when you say "children tend to like them"

                    My reasons for objecting to McCartney are more to do with the nonsense he spouts about music, notation and his over inflated sense of his own significance
                    BUT there's room on the bus for all sorts

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                    • Conchis
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2396

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      I'm sure it does bring back happy memories

                      BUT I'm not sure that you are right when you say "children tend to like them"

                      My reasons for objecting to McCartney are more to do with the nonsense he spouts about music, notation and his over inflated sense of his own significance
                      BUT there's room on the bus for all sorts
                      Whisper it, but I'm not sure to what extent he is responsible for his 'orchestral' compositions. I've heard heavy hints that Carl Davis basically expands PM's musical ideas onto a wider canvas (and, presumably, is well-rewarded for doing so).

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37636

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                        Whisper it, but I'm not sure to what extent he is responsible for his 'orchestral' compositions. I've heard heavy hints that Carl Davis basically expands PM's musical ideas onto a wider canvas (and, presumably, is well-rewarded for doing so).
                        Richard Rodney Bennett had a big hand, at least in the scoring of the Liverpool Oratorio, if my memory serves me...

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                        • Conchis
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2396

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          Richard Rodney Bennett had a big hand, at least in the scoring of the Liverpool Oratorio, if my memory serves me...
                          That wouldn't surprise me.

                          I heard L.O. when it was a new work and thought it was bloody awful.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37636

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                            That wouldn't surprise me.

                            I heard L.O. when it was a new work and thought it was bloody awful.
                            Wretched Rodney Bin-It then!

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                            • EdgeleyRob
                              Guest
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12180

                              #74
                              We've been here before http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...=Desert+island

                              I would today choose

                              RVW,Symphony No 9,Boult 1958
                              RVW,String Quartet No 2 ,Music Group of London
                              Elgar,Symphony No 2,Boult 70's
                              Shostakovich,String Quartet No 7,Fitzwilliam Qt
                              Alkan,Op 39 Etudes,Jack Gibbons
                              Ireland,Cello Sonata,Raphael Wallfisch
                              Mendelssohn,String Quartet Op 80,Henschel Qt
                              Weinberg,Piano Sonata No 2 ,Murray McLachlan

                              Which is not a lot different from my original list.
                              No room for prog rock,pop,so many British composers,Bach,Mozart,its impossible.

                              Luxury,you can keep the piano,it's too difficult I'll have a Sega Mega Drive with retro games

                              Book,Pabmusic's Butterworth biography when it's ready.

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22117

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Conchis View Post
                                Whisper it, but I'm not sure to what extent he is responsible for his 'orchestral' compositions. I've heard heavy hints that Carl Davis basically expands PM's musical ideas onto a wider canvas (and, presumably, is well-rewarded for doing so).
                                He gets by with a little help from his friends! I don't think he's ever hidden the truth of this, as indeed he acknowledges the
                                George Martin influence in his Beatles days.

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