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  • ardcarp
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    Signing in to use BBC radio i-player

    This bloody annoying obstacle has clearly been causing some problems as the BBC have sent an email which includes:

    We’ve been working to make it easier to sign in to your BBC account, and enable you to get more out of BBC Online.
    In other words they're back-tracking a bit. Why not just scrap the whole idea???
  • Zucchini
    Guest
    • Nov 2010
    • 917

    #2
    Scrap what 'idea'?

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    • ardcarp
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11102

      #3
      Signing in to listen to i-player.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30652

        #4
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        Signing in to listen to i-player.
        Back to this issue again. Why do I never get asked to sign in?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Frances_iom
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 2421

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Back to this issue again. Why do I never get asked to sign in?
          try removing all the cookies placed on your machine by the BBC - you probably still have some left over from BBC forum days or even earlier

          Personally I think it is a necessary step in the commercialisation of the BBC that will follow once the Tories have Brexit out of the way - BBC senior management are already acting as tho it is inevitable eg vast increase in adverts, the general dumbing down esp of R3 but also in several ways of R4. Tracking your listeners/customers in fine detail is what companies have been led to think as totally necessary by companies such as Google which companies are the true beneficiaries of the insidious loss of privacy we can see all around us in the 'digital' world.

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          • ardcarp
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            the insidious loss of privacy we can see all around us in the 'digital' world.
            Yes indeed. Sad to be part of it...glad I'm old enough not to have to endure it for a lifetime.

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22239

              #7
              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              Back to this issue again. Why do I never get asked to sign in?
              Sshh or they'll get you - I have no problem either!

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              • LMcD
                Full Member
                • Sep 2017
                • 8856

                #8
                I never get asked to sign in, either.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30652

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                  try removing all the cookies placed on your machine by the BBC
                  I don't regard cookies as inherently, universally malevolent. I even sometimes click 'Remember Me' so that my cookies aren't automatically deleted. Of course, I realise that this will eventually lead to the total triumph of Mammon, with only those too wily to be taken in surviving. Though will the world itself survive that long?
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Frances_iom
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2421

                    #10
                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    I don't regard cookies as inherently, universally malevolent. I even sometimes click 'Remember Me' so that my cookies aren't automatically deleted. Of course, I realise that this will eventually lead to the total triumph of Mammon, with only those too wily to be taken in surviving. Though will the world itself survive that long?
                    you asked a techie question and I gave a techie answer
                    yes there is nothing inherently wrong with cookies but merely the use they are put to (I believe the NRA make similar claims re 'merican gun laws) - no doubt the beeb only share your listening/viewing with specially selected partners as well ...

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                    • Dave2002
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18061

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frances_iom View Post
                      Tracking your listeners/customers in fine detail is what companies have been led to think as totally necessary by companies such as Google which companies are the true beneficiaries of the insidious loss of privacy we can see all around us in the 'digital' world.
                      If anyone wants to check a bit more, tools such as Ghostery give information about web sites which farm out information to other sites.
                      Google analytics features on many unless disabled. I'm not claiming that Ghostery is benign, but it does seem to give a lot of plausible information.
                      Try going to sites such as the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror (shudder) and see how many trackers and other sites link from those pages! Yuk.

                      I'm not sure that there is too much "we" can do about all this - but we should at least be aware.

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                      • Frances_iom
                        Full Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2421

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                        If anyone wants to check a bit more, tools such as Ghostery give information about web sites which farm out information to other sites.
                        Google analytics features on many unless disabled. I'm not claiming that Ghostery is benign, but it does seem to give a lot of plausible information.
                        Try going to sites such as the Daily Mail and Daily Mirror (shudder) and see how many trackers and other sites link from those pages! Yuk.

                        I'm not sure that there is too much "we" can do about all this - but we should at least be aware.
                        this site employs a common trick if you browse with noscript (ie javascript turned off which blocks many of these trackers) in forcing a redirect so then can still track you - quite why FF would be happy with such techniques defeats me after all using noscript is a clear sign that you don't wish to be tracked but companies still try to defeat user defences - the whole system is corrupt as to Google's 'do no evil' well if you believe that then what hope is there for the great unwashed - you can see the effect of deliberate misinformation fed to susceptible poorly educated people in recent USA elections and soon it seems here in UK

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