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  • Stillhomewardbound
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1109

    #16
    I think he could see it for the baloney that it all was and in a fit of pique chose to take them to task. Quite rightly two. Just two months before my father's passing we weren't able to visit him for over three weeks, can you believe, because of his ward being shut due to an outbreak of norvovirus. So, if things are that bad then patients need every protection they can get from the intrusion of camera crews and particularly the persistent lurgy of opportunistic politicians.

    It must have been quite traumatic for the thousands of patients that seemed to wake up with Thatcher frowning down on them for years, but imagine coming around to be confronted by messrs Cam, Cleg & Lan!!

    You'd think to yourself, the doctors said it was bad. I didn't know it was this bad!!

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30791

      #17
      It isn't that I disagree with anything you say there, Lat. Nor agree: I don't care whether famous people visit sick people they don't know in hospital or not. I'd pull my bedclothes over my head and gesture for them to move along the ward.

      But the outburst of Mr Nunn was not an objection to the visit of the politicians, nor the presence of the television crew and journalists covering the story. He was (apparently) angry because they had not observed the hospital's hygiene regulations. There is nothing to connect his rage with the coalition, its policy on the NHS, or any other policy. For myself, I find it a peculiar over reaction.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Lateralthinking1

        #18
        You have now got me wondering about the gesture.

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        • Stillhomewardbound
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          • Nov 2010
          • 1109

          #19
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          For myself, I find it a peculiar over reaction.
          Which, FF ... ours or the good doctor's? Regardless, of his political opinions, whatever they may be, to this viewer his underlying issue seemed to be a blatant disdain for Downing Street and the Press Pack suddenly landing itself on his ward.

          Classic Sir Lancelot Spratt!

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30791

            #20
            Originally posted by Stillhomewardbound View Post
            Which, FF ... ours or the good doctor's? Regardless, of his political opinions, whatever they may be, to this viewer his underlying issue seemed to be a blatant disdain for Downing Street and the Press Pack suddenly landing itself on his ward.

            Classic Sir Lancelot Spratt!
            Oh, his, of course .

            I'm afraid this may be down to my literalist simple-mindedness. If that was his point, why didn't he say it (to the cameras if he wished)? And if he was the boss man, as he seemed to be claiming, why did he let them in in the first place? They can't troop in with their cameras &c. without permission.

            Will he display that same petulant anger towards the ward sister when he discovers she gave them permission to keep their jackets and ties on?

            I can understand people being gleeful about the incident , but I think he looked a total twit and Cameron took charge of the situation as you would expect an Old Etonian, born to rule, would do .

            But one can make of it what one will ... . I don't like people who lose their temper and shout at people - it's a form of assault.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #21
              Mr David Nunn
              MBBS, LRCP MRCS, FRCS Eng, FRCS Ed, FRCS Ed Orth

              go for it
              kick the lot of em out ! (cameras and all)

              all that was missing was
              "you,
              yes.......... you boy
              yes .......... you with the smug expression and the shiny face
              see me after prep "


              the rather sick making "press conference" on TV with cameroon and a load of NHS folk in the background (making sure they were a good cross section of society and all wearing different uniforms ) didn't convince me either ! Surely its not the business of the NHS staff to appear to be endorsing in such a visible way the government ??? (they ALL do it I know)

              announce that you are going to scrap support for cancer patients and have a nice looking surgeon in the background to make it look like a good idea ?

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              • 3rd Viennese School

                #22
                Did he shout and loose his temper? Didn't see that!

                Not having long sleeves is common hospital policy in a clinical area.

                And you are supposed to go to the Nurse Base first before going any further!

                P.S. When I did a survey of a theatre here I had to gown up!

                3VS

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                • mercia
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 8920

                  #23
                  well, having lost a close relative to a hospital-borne infection I appreciate the importance of trying to combat it. I don't know what sort of ward that was but I wouldn't have let any of those politicians or camera crew in. I'm surprised the ward sister allowed it.
                  Last edited by mercia; 16-06-11, 10:02.

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                  • Lateralthinking1

                    #24
                    I am not sure that frenchfrank is playing this one literally. I sense a new role - something about amusement in defending every aspect of the coalition to stimulate debate here rather than because of wholehearted conviction.

                    The behaviour of Mr Nunn can hardly be viewed as an assault when he was protecting a patient from what looked to me very much like one. My only disappointment with the outcome was that Gillian Duffy didn't appear. I'd have loved to have seen her with arms outstretched at the door stopping them from leaving until a few questions had been answered.

                    It would have made up for the fact that we haven't had a decent Carry On film in years.
                    Last edited by Guest; 16-06-11, 12:07.

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                    • Paul Sherratt

                      #25
                      'Carry On Coalescing'


                      I think comic and opera man, Armando, has got something in the planning stages already.

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                      • PatrickOD

                        #26
                        Whatever the agenda was for the photo shoot - and in my opinion that is, as ff says, what politicians do, the stage was set for some reality TV. 'Sir Lancelot' rose magnificently to the occasion, stole the show, and got the vote of the audience. Public embarrassment is always a winner on TV, and I hope that when the adrenalin rush has faded the good doctor pauses to consider the consequences of his outburst. It looked to me like a bit of grandstanding on his part, and the hygiene issues were a convenient, if real, excuse.

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                        • Paul Sherratt

                          #27
                          POD,

                          How's the head ?
                          Grandstanding, consultants, can't be possible.

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #28
                            the woman sitting down who appeared to be visiting the man in the bed seemed to be dressed up to go to the ballet ?
                            whereas he was in a blue (now that's a co-incidence !!!!) T shirt

                            seemed strange when i saw it on TV

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                            • mercia
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 8920

                              #29
                              Originally posted by PatrickOD View Post
                              the consequences of his outburst
                              which were .......... what ........?

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                              • Stillhomewardbound
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1109

                                #30
                                Was the choice of ward deliberate also? ... orthopaedics ... people with broken limbs, big bandages, telegenic but with patients still able to put on a pukkah, chirpy, 'well on the road to recovery smile ... Yes, all thanks to our glorious NHS, safe in our hands ... and think of the wads to be mate when my mate billy gets HIS hands on it too!!'

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