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No-one ever quite did Film whatever year quite as well.
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Not a bad word said about the man. He will be sorely missed. RIP
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A real loss. I learned so much from his tv show and writings. I remember watching Jonathon Ross trying to do Film .... and being appalled when having to talk about a filmed version of 'Don Giovanni' he said 'Apparently, its true to the libretto- whatever that is!'
It was then that I realised what we'd lost.
Oddly enough, I was watching Barry Norman interview Lenny Bernstein during his rehearsals for the 'Enigma Variations' just last night.
RIP, Barry And why not?
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Sad news, indeed. A most astute critic with a natural charm. RIP
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During his reign as Britain's most influential film critic (no competition), he was criticised for not doing enough to encourage audience to watch non-English language films. Unfair, I think, as I can remember him featuring non-E.L. films on his programme.Originally posted by pastoralguy View PostA real loss. I learned so much from his tv show and writings. I remember watching Jonathon Ross trying to do Film .... and being appalled when having to talk about a filmed version of 'Don Giovanni' he said 'Apparently, its true to the libretto- whatever that is!'
It was then that I realised what we'd lost.
Oddly enough, I was watching Barry Norman interview Lenny Bernstein during his rehearsals for the 'Enigma Variations' just last night.
RIP, Barry And why not?
Yes, only when the ghastly likes of Jonathan Ross took over did we appreciate how good Bazza was. Lovely bloke, too, by all accounts.Comment
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Yes he was a lovely bloke, as was Philip Jenkinson, who is rather forgotten now. I don't know whether things have improved today, but back in the 70s and 80s film companies made it very difficult for the BBC to get good clips for inclusion in the programmes, and when they were available they were often dreadful copies.That was one reason why the location interviews became a substantial part of each edition, giving more scope for comment and criticism. Film companies only really want praise, and you simply have to watch the special features on the average DVD to see how it can be ladled on with a trowel.Originally posted by Conchis View Post
Barry used to come into the dubbing theatre regularly to record extra voice overs. He was very friendly and seemed to really appreciate our efforts to achieve polished results. He told great stories about his encounters with the great and not so great. He was without doubt in the first category.Comment
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Remember the signature tune?
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Oh, yes!Originally posted by Padraig View Post
- BN himself called it "the best signature tune ever", and he was quite right, IMO.
Film ** was an unmissable treat for me for over twenty years - singularly "missable" once he left. Many thanks, and RIP, Bazza
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I often enjoy the late-evening BBC News 24 Film Reviews, especially when the funny guy - straight man parternship of Mark Kermode and Gavin Esler is on. It's too short but it often follows the review of the Papers, so for half an hour it's all good ..!
Barry Norman wasn't without competition as Granada put out Cinema for a few years, (which Norman is scathing about in his book And Why Not**... https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ranada&f=false... I recall looking forward to it a lot, especially if Clive James was doing it. Very sharp, very funny!
**Norman took the catchphrase from his (rather affectionately characterised) Spitting Image puppet - until then, he hadn't said it himself....
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Sad news.
A very good broadcaster who I often felt was more "modern" in presentation style and outlook than his 1933 birth date might have suggested. As has been said the list of film critics is very long - Dilys Powell is just one who springs to mind - but BN was distinctive and he will always have a place in history as one of the better pioneers in early television (ie to 1990).
RIP Barry Norman
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Nobody ever told me before that I worked in "early television" I retired early in 1990 so I just qualify. What makes the distinction between "early" and "late'? Maybe "early" television was rather good?Originally posted by Lat-Literal View PostComment
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Hi Ferretfancy - It was intended as a compliment. I have consistently bemoaned the way in which radio and television have in many regards declined. However, a lot of it attitudinal. I accept that if I were younger, I would think differently, aware perhaps simply of content and not how they have become so ubiquitous in contrast with earlier years. It seems to me that many areas are more interesting in the period between their commencement and the point at which every technique and approach is known, automatic and seemingly churned out. "Early" is more innovative by necessity. The cut off date is a little arbitrary. It relates solely to British TV. I could have made it a 20th Century thing and pushed it to 2000. But I do feel that there were many new ideas at Channel 4, launched in 1982, during its first eight years whereas by 1997 when Channel 5 was launched almost everything of note had been done.Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
I'll expand a bit on the point about ubiquity. When one thinks of Russia pre Glasnost, the allure of western products was immense and intense because everything had been so heavily regulated. Luckily, we did not experience heavy regulation but there was a regulation of the airwaves that was gradually relaxed. In my opinion, television and radio will never have the same allure because there is hardly any regulation now. The regulatory position could in theory have been somewhat reversed with good intent but only up to the advent of the internet.
Hope this helps to clarify.Last edited by Lat-Literal; 03-07-17, 10:56.Comment
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