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  • Lat-Literal
    Guest
    • Aug 2015
    • 6983

    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    I have thought for a while that Siberia gets a very bad press in this regard.
    Oh no - according to "experts", it is doing it deliberately to spite us.

    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    Here in the south, looks likely that moderate to heavy snow will soon be hitting Cornwall, Devon and Somerset, drifting in strong easterlies causing blizzard-type conditions for the northern quadrants of those counties, but the snow turning to sleet and even freezing rain as the warmer overhead air spills in over the southern quadrants, eg along the SW "riviera". Further progress north and east of this system looks like being delayed by what is known as a warm frontal breakaway, or development on the leading warm front boundary between the "beast" and Atlantic air to the south, heading east along the Channel into NE France later this evening and overnight, before at last shifting extensive snow north into the SE and London tomorrow morning and maybe reaching E Anglia and the S midlands during the afternoon. As that happens the easterlies still across Scotland, Wales and the north are expected to veer more south-easterly, bringing temperatures up slightly above freezing tomorrow afternoon, and eventually bringing a slow thaw to all parts by Sunday. There's comparative certainty about all areas except the extreme N of Scotland being in a "zonal" Atlantic southwesterly flow by Monday, temperatures gradually returning to seasonal normals and even becoming quite mild by Tuesday-Wednesday, though after that there's disagreement as to whether or not the Arctic highs that have led to the present exceptional cold will re-exert control over the circulation and push the polar jetstream back down to the Mediterranean again.
    I need it to thaw before late Monday afternoon.

    Please expedite!

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25200

      Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
      Oh no - according to "experts", it is doing it deliberately to spite us.


      I need it to thaw before late Monday afternoon.

      Please expedite!
      Saturday lunchtime please. I have tickets to the footy, and also the Beat and the Selecter. At the moment you’ d be lucky to make it to the village pub.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Lat-Literal
        Guest
        • Aug 2015
        • 6983

        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        Saturday lunchtime please. I have tickets to the footy, and also the Beat and the Selecter. At the moment you’ d be lucky to make it to the village pub.
        You really should win that one and you need to.

        Beast from the East: How the weather got a Hollywood makeover:

        No longer is it enough to simple refer to the weather as "winter". So what's changed?


        (But that's only half the story)

        Anyhow, bring on Sunny Spells Sharon asap and then the Grand Ol' Party Heatwave.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37623

          Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
          I need it to thaw before late Monday afternoon.

          Please expedite!
          People have an understandable down on low pressure systems, what with the rain and strong winds they can bring; but in truth it's the high pressure systems, the huge anticyclones like the one right now over western Siberia, that are the real bullies of the meteorological world order. suddenly appearing as they do and then blowing themselves up to outsized proportions wherever they decide to squat, stopping the jet stream in its tracks and forcing it to take a longer route. What would be really good would be a gigantic cosmic pin, which could be used to puncture said high pressure system, thereby deflating it and allowing the weather circulation to proceed as it really wants to do, propelled happily along its way by the benevolent Coriolis force acting like the invisible hand of fair distribution and making sure that the heat over the Equator and the cold over the polar regions can happily co-exist and make sure everyone gets the right share of sunshine and precipitation, highs and lows, and that there are no droughts, except of course in the deserts where nothing worth existing lives anyway apart from a few nasty scorpions.

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          • Lat-Literal
            Guest
            • Aug 2015
            • 6983

            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            People have an understandable down on low pressure systems, what with the rain and strong winds they can bring; but in truth it's the high pressure systems, the huge anticyclones like the one right now over western Siberia, that are the real bullies of the meteorological world order. suddenly appearing as they do and then blowing themselves up to outsized proportions wherever they decide to squat, stopping the jet stream in its tracks and forcing it to take a longer route. What would be really good would be a gigantic cosmic pin, which could be used to puncture said high pressure system, thereby deflating it and allowing the weather circulation to proceed as it really wants to do, propelled happily along its way by the benevolent Coriolis force acting like the invisible hand of fair distribution and making sure that the heat over the Equator and the cold over the polar regions can happily co-exist and make sure everyone gets the right share of sunshine and precipitation, highs and lows, and that there are no droughts, except of course in the deserts where nothing worth existing lives anyway apart from a few nasty scorpions.
            Poetic.

            Barefoot Steve Hilton was working on the idea of cloud control under Cameron.

            Genuinely.

            Now that he is a Trump supporter, anything is possible and even probable.

            Meanwhile, I guarantee that at least one family in Britain is all prepared to have a fake outdoors barbecue in this weather just to get on TV.

            They are bitterly disappointed because the media haven't thought to ask them yet.
            Last edited by Lat-Literal; 01-03-18, 18:59.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37623

              Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
              Poetic.

              Barefoot Steve Hilton was working on the idea of cloud control under Cameron.

              Genuinely.

              Now that he is a Trump supporter, anything is possible and even probable.
              You know of course that the yanks tried to deprive Castro's regime of rainfall by means of timed cloud seedings calculated to make any approaching rain fall before it reached Cuba, thus bringing about drought and ruining the country's agricultural sector. No more lucrative sugar and cigar export deals. It didn't work because the theory was faulty.

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              • Lat-Literal
                Guest
                • Aug 2015
                • 6983

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                You know of course that the yanks tried to deprive Castro's regime of rainfall by means of timed cloud seedings calculated to make any approaching rain fall before it reached Cuba, thus bringing about drought and ruining the country's agricultural sector. No more lucrative sugar and cigar export deals. It didn't work because the theory was faulty.
                Oh right.

                Nothing is new, is it.

                Can you clear up one thing for me? When Hull was the City of Culture, much was made of the fact that the people of Hull had always been annoyed that Hull wasn't on the BBC weather map. That situation was being addressed. Well, Hull did subsequently appear and on occasions it still appears but what I've noted is a lot of variation in the towns and cities it displays. Actually I've seen some fairly small places mentioned. For example, places in the West Country that are not Plymouth, Exeter or Torquay. So does it vary, why, and was it all just hype?

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37623

                  Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
                  Oh right.

                  Nothing is new, is it.

                  Can you clear up one thing for me? When Hull was the City of Culture, much was made of the fact that the people of Hull had always been annoyed that Hull wasn't on the BBC weather map. That situation was being addressed. Well, Hull did subsequently appear and on occasions it still appears but what I've noted is a lot of variation in the towns and cities it displays. Actually I've seen some fairly small places mentioned. For example, places in the West Country that are not Plymouth, Exeter or Torquay. So does it vary, why, and was it all just hype?
                  Phew, you've got me there, Lat - your guess is as good as mine! I've got vague ideas why weather suddenly appears and disappears, but not whole cities!

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    Count ourselves lucky down here. Although bad for one day this, the rest have been slightly free of snow! Had some yesterday evening. I think there maybe some more later on today
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • doversoul1
                      Ex Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7132

                      Freezing rain

                      With all the news about snow, this corner of Kent remains green (or grey) although the temperature is no higher than anywhere else. I am having to break the ice on the pond with a sledge hammer. This morning we had (are still having) freezing rain. I thought when rain froze, it turned into sleet or snow but apparently that was not the case. It (the freezing rain) makes an eerie sound; it is like listening to the wind passing through the branches on an otherwise very quiet day.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22116

                        No more snow here since yesterday early evening but blowing a bit of a hooley and the outside temperature of just above freezing a bit of a thaw!

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                        • DracoM
                          Host
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 12962

                          The WIND is truly murderous up here. No thaw, grey skies, streets nearly deserted, pavements treacherous. Mums with buggies? Elderly with sticks? Blimey. Life taken in hands?

                          I think this 10 days or so will go down in meteorological folklore? '47? '63?

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                          • Petrushka
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12242

                            Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                            The WIND is truly murderous up here. No thaw, grey skies, streets nearly deserted, pavements treacherous. Mums with buggies? Elderly with sticks? Blimey. Life taken in hands?

                            I think this 10 days or so will go down in meteorological folklore? '47? '63?
                            Yesterday I saw a 93 year old neighbour out doing his shopping in falling snow, murderous wind and treacherous pavements. He really shouldn't have been out in it but seemed remarkably unperturbed.
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Lat-Literal
                              Guest
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 6983

                              I understand that the ice here is treacherous. Last night the wind was fierce. The cold is exceptional. We are expecting the greatest amount of snow in about an hour's time and then throughout the afternoon. But while as is always expected, cars are not getting out of the road, let alone up the hill, this is not the worst we have had in several decades. I can count at least half a dozen occasions in the past five years when the conditions were far worse. Nor as is often the case do we appear to have things worse than everywhere else in Greater London or much of Surrey and East Sussex. This perplexes me a little because the 1 in 9 precipice we are on does face approximately east.

                              In fact, according to BBC Surrey and Sussex, it is Hampshire which is having it worst. Whether that continues to be the case is uncertain and unlikely. It is at times like these that BBC Local Radio justifies its existence. Any feeling of oppression from having to stay indoors is alleviated by the manner in which it moves from its usual content of indoors policy issues to outdoors weather concerns across the regions. I've always quite liked the coordinated mind map it creates with all of the references to the places one knows. In the absence of any pictures one can oddly feel more a part of everything else rather than less. That is to say, I have more of an attachment to the names and concepts of Guildford, Reigate, Gatwick, Crawley, Brighton and even Sutton where I once lived than what I actually know of them. On balance, it's my preferred version of "the world".
                              Last edited by Lat-Literal; 02-03-18, 13:18.

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                              • doversoul1
                                Ex Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7132

                                I don’t think I’ve ever seen this; cars completely encrusted in pure ice. The only way to open the door and get inside would have been to give the car a hot shower or a blast of hot air.

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