Stormy Weather II

[DracoM]

Wild heavy rain rattling roofs and south--facing windows, cold i.e. c 5C!

[Frances_iom]

Debi is dying down across Island - many trees down but nothing too serious reported - no boat last night nor this morning - guess tonight's boat will run or the supermarket shelves will be empty

[Old Grumpy]

Funny what this weather does:


I have just been reminiscing about BBM's regular meteorological updates on this forum...

...I picture him in glorious sunshine in the celestial sphere gliding on his nobility scooter.

[oddoneout]

Thoroughly yuk morning, not helped by finding that(despite forecasts for a couple of days) the neighbour didn't rig up his waterbutt overflow arrangement(which I cobbled together while they were away for Storm Babet...) last night, so my yard and upper lawn flooded - again. Shoved my gardening waterproof over my dressing gown and went and dealt with it so no more incursions and the standing water is gradually moving away.
On the (slightly) plus side the wind has dropped quite a bit, it's fairly mild, and it looks as if the rain mass should break up to some effect round about lunchtime. Bad news is that it's returning for a second attempt with increasing winds on Sunday, which wasn't forecast yesterday when I was sorting out what to do and when.
This might be a suitable occasion to drain and scrub the various water collecting vessels(an assortment of salvaged buckets and header tanks) around the garden shed, and put a length of wire netting over to stop more leaves from falling in. Wish I had a pair of waterproof trousers...

[Serial_Apologist]

Dry autumns are so preferable to wet soggy ones... frisking one's frolicsome youthful skips through crisped piles of tumbled leaves...

[oddoneout]

Dry autumns are so preferable to wet soggy ones... frisking one's frolicsome youthful skips through crisped piles of tumbled leaves...

And hoping there isn't a hidden pile of something unpleasant under said leaves - one of the less pleasant memories of parenting...

In view of the all-day rain originally forecast I put a compressed coir brick in my wheelbarrow to rehydrate for use as a mulch in due course - so what's happened? Yes the rain has now stopped, and isn't due to resume until tomorrow. The mildness and cessation of rain did make it much easier to rig up the anti-pigeon netting over the kale though - fingers able to tie fastenings, so just a case of dodging the water collected on the large crinkled leaves.
Ah well, I can try Plan C now, and walk down to the library; fresh air and exercise, return a book and perhaps find another, although I'm not currently short of reading matter.

[DracoM]

Up here on south-west edge of Pennines, all is saturated filth: horizons lost in thick low cloud / fog / drizzle and - wow! - it's that penetrating wet cold of a sunless, deep autumn evening.

[french frank]

Up here on south-west edge of Pennines, all is saturated filth: horizons lost in thick low cloud / fog / drizzle and - wow! - it's that penetrating wet cold of a sunless, deep autumn evening.

The book I'm currently reading about the Lost Rainforests explains that the vestiges of the UK's temperate rainforests survive in the areas where temperatures are moderate and, crucially, there is rain and fog/mist all year round, especially in the microclimates present in impressive deep river valleys and gorges. So get out your hand lens and search the various mosses, lichens, ferns &c which grow on the indigenous trees in the ever decreasing areas of old woodland - the 'wildwood'.

[Serial_Apologist]

The book I'm currently reading about the Lost Rainforests explains that the vestiges of the UK's temperate rainforests survive in the areas where temperatures are moderate and, crucially, there is rain and fog/mist all year round, especially in the microclimates present in impressive deep river valleys and gorges. So get out your hand lens and search the various mosses, lichens, ferns &c which grow on the indigenous trees in the ever decreasing areas of old woodland - the 'wildwood'.

Humankind removed all the temperate forest from most of the area where DracoM lives, nevertheless the rain and fog/mist all year round still persist!

[french frank]

Humankind removed all the temperate forest from most of the area where DracoM lives, nevertheless the rain and fog/mist all year round still persist!

There is one remote recently identified bit, about 2 hectares, to the west of Penrith and northeast of Keswick. It loves the rain and fog!

[oddoneout]

Today was not the rainfest originally forecast, in fact the morning was dry, fairly sunny, and mild, so I got a couple of hours gardening done. There was a bit of wet at lunchtime but it soon gave up. The coir brick is still waiting to be hydrated... It looks as if it could wait some time so I've put a bit of wire netting over to prevent feline interest, and will be patient - for a while at least, then a couple of the rain filled buckets will be brought into play - which will probably unleash a cloudburst.

[Serial_Apologist]

Certainly there was chill in the air today, and yet 11C is 1C above end-of-November averages. A lot of winter acclimatization needs still to be done!

[DracoM]

A day [?huh!] of intensifying filth - genuine penetrating cold, wet, thickest cloud, foggy drizzle / mizzle. By 3 p.m., it was night-time dark.

[oddoneout]

It would have been cold today anyway but strong northerly winds made it really bitter, particularly during the morning when occasional not quite drizzle exacerbated the chill. The air had that characteristic raw cold smell to it that in the appropriate conditions often means snow.

[Serial_Apologist]

It would have been cold today anyway but strong northerly winds made it really bitter, particularly during the morning when occasional not quite drizzle exacerbated the chill. The air had that characteristic raw cold smell to it that in the appropriate conditions often means snow.

It has to be a few degrees colder for snow. 1 or 2C when prevailing conditions are saturated or near-saturated, when falling snow melts more easily and rapidly than when they are dry; 3 to as high as 8C in dry conditions - say 20% or less humidity - as happens most frequently in spring, with sudden sharp temperature falls in showers. With the jet stream now well to the south along with low pressure systems we could get hints of proper (for the UK) winter conditions, meaning snow across our uplands, sleet further down, during this next week. Cold spells at the start of winter are notorious harbingers of mild winters here, but with El Niño now ensconced, chances of a cold season overall are often increased.

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