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  • Old Grumpy
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 3643

    Great weather up in The Lakes. Warm in the sun, but a brisk SE breeze cooled things on top of Gummer's How. Just waiting to see how much sdverse weather Babet brings us tomorrow...

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    • DracoM
      Host
      • Mar 2007
      • 12986

      Well, as I post from here, neighbouring the Lakes, and inland from the wide open mouth of Morecambe Bay at one end of the dale complex and Pennine peaks to north and east, I can tell you is Babet, a ravaging, hard-gusting north-easterly, and damned cold. Rain is forecast.
      Yes, we did have sun earlier and it was OK, but then..............

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37812

        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
        Rather pleasant today. With rather a brisk easterly wind I was expecting it to be chilly, but in fact with the sun out it was OK. I had to go into the city for an appointment and was able to eat my picnic lunch outside, and the bus trip in was warm enough to warrant shedding my jacket for the duration of the journey. Early evening the payback started - even stronger wind and heavy rain - but it looks as if it should clear during the night.
        No wonder it's taken so lng to clear tonight if it's taken that long to reach you! Luckily I got some shopping done after lunch, just as the first spots were falling; we then had four or so hours of moderate to heavy rain, tunring to drizzle this evening as winds veered southerly and increased to fresh, and temperatures risen to 15+ C, which would be warm even by mid summer values. This problem of slow moving high rainfall-bearing frontal systems is to be with us up to and including the weekend, as low pressure centres form along the frontal systems delaying progression, owing to a blocking high across E Europe, forming what looks like a flabby triple yolked fried egg right across the UK - hence the rare red warning for exceptional rainfall across SE Scotland. But at least it's going to be very mild!!!

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 9271

          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

          No wonder it's taken so lng to clear tonight if it's taken that long to reach you! Luckily I got some shopping done after lunch, just as the first spots were falling; we then had four or so hours of moderate to heavy rain, tunring to drizzle this evening as winds veered southerly and increased to fresh, and temperatures risen to 15+ C, which would be warm even by mid summer values. This problem of slow moving high rainfall-bearing frontal systems is to be with us up to and including the weekend, as low pressure centres form along the frontal systems delaying progression, owing to a blocking high across E Europe, forming what looks like a flabby triple yolked fried egg right across the UK - hence the rare red warning for exceptional rainfall across SE Scotland. But at least it's going to be very mild!!!
          It is now very mild here, the change of wind direction has a significant effect - odd to see overnight temperatures of 15 and 16. Sunny spells and showers, some heavy, appears to be the order of the day for the next few hours, so a waterproof will be needed for errands but with not much layering needed underneath as it's so mild.

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          • johncorrigan
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 10409

            Wild out there this morning. Just been outside and it's not cold but the wind is howling, and the rain is driving. We are forecast to be in the heart of Babet this evening. Forecast to get a bucketload of rain over the next twenty-four hours. Hopefully the lecky will hold out, but outages are to be expected. Just have to sit tight and hope it passes quick.

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            • Joseph K
              Banned
              • Oct 2017
              • 7765

              Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post
              Wild out there this morning. Just been outside and it's not cold but the wind is howling, and the rain is driving. We are forecast to be in the heart of Babet this evening. Forecast to get a bucketload of rain over the next twenty-four hours. Hopefully the lecky will hold out, but outages are to be expected. Just have to sit tight and hope it passes quick.
              Best wishes, JC.

              Loads of rain here last night. But very mild and fortunately dry for my walk this morning. More rain and possible thunder expected later.

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              • johncorrigan
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 10409

                Originally posted by Joseph K View Post

                Best wishes, JC.

                Loads of rain here last night. But very mild and fortunately dry for my walk this morning. More rain and possible thunder expected later.
                Thanks, Joseph. Electricity went out this afternoon, but then came on a couple of hours later. I found some batteries that fitted the radio to retain a bit contact with the outside world. A couple of hundred houses in Brechin, about half-an-hour north-east of here, are being evacuated. Red warning announced starting at 6pm in place till tomorrow lunchtime...pretty wild day out there. The leaves are abandoning the trees at a fair rate of knots.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37812

                  Originally posted by Joseph K View Post

                  Best wishes, JC.

                  Loads of rain here last night. But very mild and fortunately dry for my walk this morning. More rain and possible thunder expected later.
                  All the showers apart from one heavy one at 2pm have so far skirted London, and as others have noted, very mild and close, even warm - temperature currently just under 18C, and that's on our north-facing wall. Tonight and tomorrow the main low pressure centre stalls over the E Midlands and E Anglia, putting us here in stagnant unstable air, so any showers swirling towards that centre will blend into a general rainy mush from tomorrow through most of the weekend, while the main 3 or 4 rain-bearing occluded fronts aligned E-W across Wales, the north and Scotland will be making things very unpleasant for those stuck under them - especially south-east Scotland, where the Red Warning remains alarmingly in place, and where the squeezed isobars indicating a steep pressure gradient probably mean gales on top of everything else!

                  So it was a bit of a nuisance having waited for 15 minutes at a local bus stop with my friend, who had to return to Camberwell, when a passer-by pointed out the notice covering the bus stop stating that it was closed. The same applied to the next two stops down line, and we eventually had to run to catch the No 3 he needed, half a mile down the road. I think Ricky was just relieved, but one would have thought the last bus driver could have pasted temporary notices giving explanations and directions to round the corner, where several No 3s re-routed down Gipsy Hill passed me on my ascent to the Upper Norwood triangle. All down to road works, presumably, of which there are a lot happening at the moment around these parts.

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                  • Joseph K
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 7765

                    Originally posted by johncorrigan View Post

                    Thanks, Joseph. Electricity went out this afternoon, but then came on a couple of hours later. I found some batteries that fitted the radio to retain a bit contact with the outside world. A couple of hundred houses in Brechin, about half-an-hour north-east of here, are being evacuated. Red warning announced starting at 6pm in place till tomorrow lunchtime...pretty wild day out there. The leaves are abandoning the trees at a fair rate of knots.


                    My dad, who lives in Michigan, had to buy a generator because of the power going out for a number of days in the summer because of storms, if I remember correctly...

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9271

                      The rain arrived suddenly last night with such force that I thought at first it was hail clattering on the front door(uPVC always makes it sound worse) but otherwise it's not been too bad just here. The wind is dropping a bit although the rain is currently increasing.
                      Hoping that family up in Dundee area are OK - the area got flooding problems only a few days ago, poor souls.

                      The rain did indeed get heavier and has been relentless. I've now not only got the customary stream across my backyard from the neighbour's roofs, but the volume has been such that the garden is now flooding. Under less challenging conditions the ground can relatively quickly absorb the deluge, but it can't cope with this. I have got thoroughly wet taking photos to show him and request(forcibly now - hints and neutral comments over several years haven't registered) that he address the issue by reconnecting the downpipe to the drainage system instead of assuming that a 350 litre waterbutt will somehow do the job of draining his back roof(and part of his neighbour's) and the kitchen roof. I can get a builder in to make a kerb to prevent the water getting to the area directly outside the back door but the water will still run down the side of the adjoining patio onto the garden. I can't fill in that gap (which I deepened shortly after getting the house to try and prevent standing water rotting more of the fenceposts) as his chain link fence goes below the level of the concrete pad on his side which would mean water getting into the gap and under both hard surfaces - not g. On the plus side the neighbour on the other side has sorted out the overflow from his IBC tank so that that doesn't drain into my yard as well, otherwise there would be several inches out there by now.
                      Last edited by oddoneout; 20-10-23, 12:14. Reason: Update

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                      • DracoM
                        Host
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 12986

                        Wild, wild night, sheds of rain.

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37812

                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          The rain arrived suddenly last night with such force that I thought at first it was hail clattering on the front door(uPVC always makes it sound worse) but otherwise it's not been too bad just here. The wind is dropping a bit although the rain is currently increasing.
                          Hoping that family up in Dundee area are OK - the area got flooding problems only a few days ago, poor souls.

                          The rain did indeed get heavier and has been relentless. I've now not only got the customary stream across my backyard from the neighbour's roofs, but the volume has been such that the garden is now flooding. Under less challenging conditions the ground can relatively quickly absorb the deluge, but it can't cope with this. I have got thoroughly wet taking photos to show him and request(forcibly now - hints and neutral comments over several years haven't registered) that he address the issue by reconnecting the downpipe to the drainage system instead of assuming that a 350 litre waterbutt will somehow do the job of draining his back roof(and part of his neighbour's) and the kitchen roof. I can get a builder in to make a kerb to prevent the water getting to the area directly outside the back door but the water will still run down the side of the adjoining patio onto the garden. I can't fill in that gap (which I deepened shortly after getting the house to try and prevent standing water rotting more of the fenceposts) as his chain link fence goes below the level of the concrete pad on his side which would mean water getting into the gap and under both hard surfaces - not g. On the plus side the neighbour on the other side has sorted out the overflow from his IBC tank so that that doesn't drain into my yard as well, otherwise there would be several inches out there by now.
                          I am just glad drainage people came here a couple of years ago, and for a couple of hundred quid did a thorough job on the drain passing the 14 garages at ground level on the north side of our block, as that half of the driveway had been steadily getting more flooded over time. I had still expected to see large pools there this morning following the phenomenal rainfall that occurred here around midnight - a roaring cataract lasting half an hour - I was surprised not to hear any thunder during that time. The sun has just broken from the underside of the big frontal cloud shield; temperatures are beginning to lift - as is surface convection, indicated by rapid cumulus growth in the aftermath, promising showers for later, as forecast.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30450

                            Just had my shortest rucksacking holiday ever: bus out to Parkway station, then bus back home again. Storm Babet strikes the rail network, apparently.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37812

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post
                              Just had my shortest rucksacking holiday ever: bus out to Parkway station, then bus back home again. Storm Babet strikes the rail network, apparently.
                              Bad luck frenchie!

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                              • Old Grumpy
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 3643

                                Serious winds SE Lake District, not much rain today though. Must have rained heavily somewhere upstream last night though as the beck is definitely fuller.

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