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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37619

    In response to Lat, just now checking my schoolbook records for 1963, I now see that daytime temperatures only rose above zero Celsius for a few isolated days during that notorious winter before a proper thaw settled in on Feb 26. Temoperatures were back to seasonal normal by March 2, this being followed by a very changeable, often rainy and windy month, but with temperatures around what would be expected for March. A cold north-easterly set in on April 4, bringing two days of sleet and soft hail showers to eastern areas, but as this airstream turned more south-easterly it brought mild damp weather, lasting until April 11, when a strong westerly regime resumed, with at times quite deep lows swinging frontal systems ahead and up from the SW, all preparing for a brief high pressure block right across the UK, bringing nonedescript weather until the 29th. Thereafter it was back to a norwest/westerly type, ie our all-year-round norm until recent years, with further high pressure blockage to the north forcing the jet stream and its associated lows across France from May 25. May then ended with warm easterlies and the first 25+ C midday temperatures for London, Liverpool and the N Wales resorts. This was about the best weather all year; the rest of the summer turned out to be a bit of a dog's dinner, with only brief settled warm spells and nothing describable as a heatwave - except for me, since that was the year I spent 3 weeks of August with a French family on the French side of Lake Geneva, and from the records I meticulously kept there, it did get quite hot at times - and we had some spectacular thunderstorms!

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    • Lat-Literal
      Guest
      • Aug 2015
      • 6983

      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      In response to Lat, just now checking my schoolbook records for 1963, I now see that daytime temperatures only rose above zero Celsius for a few isolated days during that notorious winter before a proper thaw settled in on Feb 26. Temoperatures were back to seasonal normal by March 2, this being followed by a very changeable, often rainy and windy month, but with temperatures around what would be expected for March. A cold north-easterly set in on April 4, bringing two days of sleet and soft hail showers to eastern areas, but as this airstream turned more south-easterly it brought mild damp weather, lasting until April 11, when a strong westerly regime resumed, with at times quite deep lows swinging frontal systems ahead and up from the SW, all preparing for a brief high pressure block right across the UK, bringing nonedescript weather until the 29th. Thereafter it was back to a norwest/westerly type, ie our all-year-round norm until recent years, with further high pressure blockage to the north forcing the jet stream and its associated lows across France from May 25. May then ended with warm easterlies and the first 25+ C midday temperatures for London, Liverpool and the N Wales resorts. This was about the best weather all year; the rest of the summer turned out to be a bit of a dog's dinner, with only brief settled warm spells and nothing describable as a heatwave - except for me, since that was the year I spent 3 weeks of August with a French family on the French side of Lake Geneva, and from the records I meticulously kept there, it did get quite hot at times - and we had some spectacular thunderstorms!
      Much research there S_A for which thanks. It partly confirms my mother's assertion that because of the weather she didn't see a health worker for several months after giving birth in December 1962. I'd still like to know if the start of this year is the worst in the South East since that year but I won't press you on every one of the years since. I didn't get to Lake Geneva until July 1991 - plenty of jazz on the "public beach" which may or may not have been activities extended from Montreux but elsewhere too many cordoned off private areas.

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      • DracoM
        Host
        • Mar 2007
        • 12962

        Nothing like '63 or '47.
        2018 unpleasant yes, yes .............but '63 or '47,? No chance. And I live where conditions have been pretty awful.
        A long winter, yes, but not in the same rank as the two quoted IIRC.

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          1987 was too!

          Filthy day today! Pouring rain!
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37619

            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
            1987 was too!

            Filthy day today! Pouring rain!
            Must be the coldest, as well as windiest and wettest last day of April I can remember. But hold on tight, everyone, because once we're past Wednesday, it looks like it's going to start warming up nicely, to give us the kind of bank holiday weekend we deserve.

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            • cloughie
              Full Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 22115

              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Must be the coldest, as well as windiest and wettest last day of April I can remember. But hold on tight, everyone, because once we're past Wednesday, it looks like it's going to start warming up nicely, to give us the kind of bank holiday weekend we deserve.
              Bright and sunny here but with a not to warm wind and some cloud.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37619

                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                Bright and sunny here but with a not to warm wind and some cloud.


                On the Weatherworld forum, somebody located in Southampton, who reports being on the far western edge of the rain belt, says he thinks he can glimpse blue sky, way down on the horizon to his west!

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25200

                  Not a drop of the much heralded heavy and persistent rain we were forecast here.

                  Bit on the cool side, but beginning to brighten up a tad.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37619

                    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                    Not a drop of the much heralded heavy and persistent rain we were forecast here.

                    Bit on the cool side, but beginning to brighten up a tad.
                    And you're in the clear now, TS - the rain is petering out here in London now.

                    Ring ring: "Hello, is Peter in?"
                    "I'm sorry, he's out".

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                    • Mal
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 892

                      The Met office are struggling in North Bucks. Heavy rain was forecast yesterday evening; this morning: no rain forecast. It didn't rain. So very short term forecasting seems to be working OK!

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37619

                        Originally posted by Mal View Post
                        The Met office are struggling in North Bucks. Heavy rain was forecast yesterday evening; this morning: no rain forecast. It didn't rain. So very short term forecasting seems to be working OK!
                        Accurate weather forecasting has to take account of data inputs that are changing from hour to hour in situations without exact precedent (cue Amber Rudd apologists!): in this instance insufficient account was taken of the expected source of the energy outflow from yesterday's cluster of intense thunderstorms over the Benelux countries feeding into the rain band moving east more rapidly than had been predicted. The heat source and the cold inflow to the west from Scandinavia became decoupled. The low that moved north into the southern North Sea turned out to be less intense in consequence, and the associated rain band narrower.

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25200

                          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                          And you're in the clear now, TS - the rain is petering out here in London now.

                          Ring ring: "Hello, is Peter in?"
                          "I'm sorry, he's out".

                          Good news about the rain.

                          Incidentally ,I find that a lot of Tchaikovsky's works tend to Pytor out.......
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • greenilex
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1626

                            Odd how often Southampton is on the line between weather systems and areas...

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                            • Petrushka
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12241

                              The forecast shocker of a day never happened here either. Windy and a bit chilly but some warming evening sunshine. Certainly not the torrential rain originally forecast nor the promised low temperatures.
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22115

                                Originally posted by greenilex View Post
                                Odd how often Southampton is on the line between weather systems and areas...
                                Must be the Spithead influence!

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